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Radio Four - lunchtime today

I find it odd that Drs quote DUK stuff at me. I can empahise with the Poster on Dr Briffa's blog who asked if they were a charity or a government department. I have often wondered what they really are , Just a mouthpiece for the BMA?

I particularly object when they are given the status of represening diabetics. I don't remeber voting for them.
 
Unbeliever said:
I particularly object when they are given the status of represening diabetics. I don't remeber voting for them.
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What do they actually do? Apart from churn out harmful and wrong advice? Have they been active in campaigning to get T2s strips? Or are they just a vehicle for selling carb filled cornflakes?

They won't get a penny of my hard earned cash.
 
It's very depressing reading the Diabetes UK facebook page - there are people posting some truly scary numbers on there. Glad I found this site first.
 
borofergie said:
Unbeliever said:
I particularly object when they are given the status of represening diabetics. I don't remeber voting for them.
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What do they actually do? Apart from churn out harmful and wrong advice? Have they been active in campaigning to get T2s strips? Or are they just a vehicle for selling carb filled cornflakes?

They won't get a penny of my hard earned cash.
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They were invited to Downing St to advise on the changes to the NHS. Terrifying!
 
swimmer2 said:
It's very depressing reading the Diabetes UK facebook page - there are people posting some truly scary numbers on there. Glad I found this site first.
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Someone on that page is celebrating getting their HbA1c down from 11.2 to 10.6%. That's an average BG of over 16mmol/l. Still, I suppose she gets to eat her starchy carbs with every meal...

It's a frightening insight into the clueless world of uninformed diabetics. Thank God we have this place...
 
borofergie said:
Just posted to the Diabetes UK Facebook page (the charity, not this Diabetes UK)

I wonder how long it will stay up for, but if you can add your own comments to the post.
http://www.facebook.com/diabetesuk?sk=wall&filter=2
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Your and anyone else who posted appear to be long gone.

If you look down the page there's a "Vote if you think my diabetic care is ok" poll

I voted NO three times off 3 different FB accounts. It started at 53 votes for NO and ended at 51 votes when I looked a few mins ago lol :clap: :clap: :clap:

Would only need around 50 more NO's to make it look like people are peed off so if you are peed off....
 
borofergie said:
swimmer2 said:
It's very depressing reading the Diabetes UK facebook page - there are people posting some truly scary numbers on there. Glad I found this site first.
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Someone on that page is celebrating getting their HbA1c down from 11.2 to 10.6%. That's an average BG of over 16mmol/l. Still, I suppose she gets to eat her starchy carbs with every meal...

It's a frightening insight into the clueless world of uninformed diabetics. Thank God we have this place...
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Yes they're like lemmings on there as are many of the poor people who seem to post on their forum. It's all very sad.
 
Yep apologies they are still there just having a senior moment!
 
Well... I gave in and listened to the radio programme... I have been trying very hard not to listen as I know it is just going to RAGE me and yes it has... now I must resist posting on that FB page...
 
Mine has generated discussion - & "Like" by Dr. Briffa:
John Briffa and 3 others like this.

Samantha Allman Doesn't everything contain carbohydrates apart form protein? Isn't that the Atkinsons diet?
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Stephen Ferguson Samantha, food is made up of a combination of protein, fat and carbohydrate. The Atkins diet is a good example of a low-carb diet that would be really good for a T2 diabetic...
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Stephen Ferguson ‎...unfortunately DUK are trying to convince us that we need to eat starchy carbs with every meal. Which is a bit like feeding vodka to an alcoholic.
2 hours ago · Unlike · 2
Jane Sanders If you are concerned about your diet and whether to cut out anything, then talk to your Drs and look further afield than this man to have a change in health.
2 hours ago · Like · 1
Samantha Allman Everyone needs carbs it's a source of energy for all you Type 1's Well balanced diet same as every else
about an hour ago · Like
Samantha Allman ‎...and type 2's in moderation:)
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Stephen Ferguson Actually you don't need to eat carbs - your liver can make them out of fat and protein. No-one is saying that you need to cut them out altogether, but Diabetes UK recommeds that you get 55% of your energy from carbohydrate, all of which turns to sugar in your blood.
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Ian Day BG was 5.1 at 5:30 before a small meal of ham & cheese (full fat). At 8:30 I played flood-lit tennis (doubles) for 1 1/2 hours against younger players. The result was 7/5, 5/5 lights out. I drank only water during the match. BG 7.6. My body generates all the energy I need without carbs, bananas or energy drinks.
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borofergie said:
Unbeliever said:
They were invited to Downing St to advise on the changes to the NHS. Terrifying!
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I bet there weren't many biscuits left, by the time DUK had scoffed them all...
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Ha ha ! Only the diabetics among them ate the biscuits I expect. Havet o keep up the carbs - probably in the absence of cornflakes. Could have been a breakfast meeting though.
 
The really depressing thing is that some of the angry defenders of the ' eat carbs' line are NHS staff (according to their profiles)
 
borofergie said:
What do they actually do? Apart from churn out harmful and wrong advice? Have they been active in campaigning to get T2s strips? Or are they just a vehicle for selling carb filled cornflakes?

They won't get a penny of my hard earned cash.
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Here's a clue to where some of their money is spent Stephen:

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Research/Current-research/


I've been a supporting member since 1982 when it was the BDA, I'll continue to support the good work they do in providing help & support to diabetics via their support line, research funding....but most importantly the good work they do in providing help, support and funding into Juvenile diabetes.
 
Deepa from Diabetes UK stated that hypoglycemia is more prevalent on low carb diets and therefore not suitable for people with type 1.

As a type 1, I question this. I've not personally had an increase in hypos since being on a low carb diet. Furthermore, when I do go low, I'm able to notice it and treat it more easily on a low carb diet.

On the Diabetes UK diet I followed until 2009, I used to have, every so often, episodes of severe hypoglycemia. I had a number at work which was very inconvenient.

On a low carb diet, I can go through the day and not have to worry about a really bad hypo coming on. I'm taking less insulin so there's a much lower chance of a bad over-dosage of insulin happening. Plus, my control has been a lot better on low carb and my hypo awareness is much more reliable than it was on the Diabetes UK diet.

In addition, my HbA1c has enjoyed a great improvement since cutting down much of the carbs and I'm eating much more good food (read as much more veg) than on the more carb-fuelled diet.

Ed
 
alaska said:
On a low carb diet, I can go through the day and not have to worry about a really bad hypo coming on. I'm taking less insulin so there's a much lower chance of a bad over-dosage of insulin happening. Plus, my control has been a lot better on low carb and my hypo awareness is much more reliable than it was on the Diabetes UK diet.
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I know where your coming from, I use to have regular hypo's (although I've never lost my hypo awareness) but can go weeks now without experiencing one, hypo's are caused by injecting too much insulin for the carbs in your food, basal insulin being incorrect and planned/unplanned exercise.....to name a few!

I don't low-carb and eat around 150g of carbs a day, my TDD has reduced by half compared to what I was taking several years ago, I put this down to losing weight, increasing exercise and being careful and choosing the right carbs to eat.
 
Just received my DUK Balance magazine today. What does it contain?

A double page spread about diet. Ref Starchy foods it says "Have 7-14 portions per day. One-third of your diet should be made up of these foods, so you should include them in all meals. What's a portion? One portion is equal to 2-4 tbsp cereal, 1 slice of bread, etc etc". Now a slice of bread can be 12 gm so they are suggesting up to the equivalent of 14 slices of bread per day, 56 tbsp cereal etc? Are we on the same planet? Then I look at the recipe section with recipies containing added sugar and honey. In the same magazine we have a campaign about amputations.....Need I say more
 
noblehead said:
I don't low-carb and eat around 150g of carbs a day
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Isn't that splitting hairs Nigel? Compared to what Diabetes UK is recommending 150g is a low carb diet.

Part of the problem is that the term "low-carb" tends to be very emotive. If we talked about a managed or controlled carbohydrate diet, then maybe people would listen more.
 
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