SouthernGeneral6512 said:Is the 5 stones 9 included in the ND or is that seperate?
I lost 34.2lbs on Atkins and 48.6lbs on the ND approximately, give or take a pound or two, math is not my strong point. :lol:
SouthernGeneral6512 said:Is the 5 stones 9 included in the ND or is that seperate?
Wow that's amazing losing all that will have such a positive effect on your health ... how did you find the 2 diets which one was the easier to stick to?Defren said:SouthernGeneral6512 said:Is the 5 stones 9 included in the ND or is that seperate?
I lost 34.2lbs on Atkins and 48.6lbs on the ND approximately, give or take a pound or two, math is not my strong point. :lol:
SouthernGeneral6512 said:Wow that's amazing losing all that will have such a positive effect on your health ... how did you find the 2 diets which one was the easier to stick to?Defren said:SouthernGeneral6512 said:Is the 5 stones 9 included in the ND or is that seperate?
I lost 34.2lbs on Atkins and 48.6lbs on the ND approximately, give or take a pound or two, math is not my strong point. :lol:
Paul1976 said:I believe our resident 'caveman' on here enjoys a bit of cream from time to time!
Defren said:My thoughts are now what to do post diet. I just assumed I would go back onto Atkins, as it works for me, but the Paleo diet is so far more appealing. The issue I have is limited if any dairy, so what I may well do, is Atkins, but keeping all grain out of my diet. Soon I will be at my optimum weight, and then I will have to maintain, and dairy would do that. I also don't think I would want to cut out, or drastically reduce another food group as I have with carbs, so I will probably do Atkins as it works for me, minus all grains.
Defren said:Paul1976 said:I believe our resident 'caveman' on here enjoys a bit of cream from time to time!
Well remembered, the squirty cream King. :lol:
Paul1976 said:I reckon your next HbA1c will be in the fours Jo! In fact I was going to have a sweepstake on it! :mrgreen:
Grazer said:Paul1976 said:I reckon your next HbA1c will be in the fours Jo! In fact I was going to have a sweepstake on it! :mrgreen:
I'll have a quid on 5.2!
Wot odds do I get?
Get on! You'll be desperate to tell us your shiny new HbA1c. And you'll profit through your good health and our good wishes. And if the odds are high enough, you'll profit from the bribe I'll pay you to lie and say it was the figure I bet on!Defren said:Grazer said:Paul1976 said:I reckon your next HbA1c will be in the fours Jo! In fact I was going to have a sweepstake on it! :mrgreen:
I'll have a quid on 5.2!
Wot odds do I get?
What ya gonna do if I don't tell you what my HbA1c is, AND why am I not profiting from this venture? :lol:
Grazer said:Get on! You'll be desperate to tell us your shiny new HbA1c. And you'll profit through your good health and our good wishes. And if the odds are high enough, you'll profit from the bribe I'll pay you to lie and say it was the figure I bet on!Defren said:Grazer said:I'll have a quid on 5.2!
Wot odds do I get?
What ya gonna do if I don't tell you what my HbA1c is, AND why am I not profiting from this venture? :lol:
:thumbup: Im with youborofergie said:xyzzy said:borofergie said:I'd happily pay for my own, and interpret my own results
£200 from here http://www.medichecks.com/index.cfm...me=C Peptide&gclid=CLvph7SwqrACFUYntAodMyyjVw
I think you should think VERY carefully about the psychological impact having the test done could do. If it came back and said you had little beta cell function remaining then unless someone finds a miracle cure you would need to accept your reversal hopes would be dashed. Further that even on your VLC regime that has in all likelihood stopped progression that if that progression is continuing however slowly then at some point your levels will rise assuming nothing else gets you first. I would suggest like most things of a similar nature such as an alzheimer test it is a thing you do after the most careful consideration.
I'm more robust than that. At this point in my diabetic journey I'm pretty disillusioned with a medical profession that fails to understand any of the things that I've done to address my condition. All I ever hear is "don't test", "eat more carbs", "ketones are bad for you", "your Total cholesterol is too high" (I haven't heard the last one yet, but I'm bracing myself for next week). I have next to zero confidence that my Doc could properly interpret a c-pep test, or if he did he'd do so with exactly the same resources as I do, but probably with less than half the enthusiasm.
Every step I've taken so far I've taken on my own, usually doing exactly the opposite of whatever the medical profession told me. That's just the kind of guy I am. If I hadn't taken responsibility for my diabetes, and blindly followed the advice I was given, I'd probably be washing down my low-fat diet with a glass of orange-juice and a hand full of statins and hoping that my next HbA1c would be "Good Enough!".
If I end up as a blind-amputee with kidney failure, at least I'll be able to console myself with the fact that I tried my best, did my own research and didn't blindly put my faith in a medical profession that frankly doesn't give a monkey's about me, or my diabetes.
It's kinda working out so far, don't you think?
borofergie said:I'd bet if you compared the pre-1960s high-carb diet the modern high-carb diet , you'd find the bulk of carbs in the latter was coming from starches and not from grains. You know that as a diabetic, it's much easier to avoid sugars and starches than it is to avoid flour products.
borofergie said:The great thing here is that the "Wheat Flour Use" graph maps almost exactly on top of the "Total Carbohydrate" graph.
- Between 65 and 97 the Total Carbohydrate Consumption per person went up by just over 100g.
- Between 65 and 97 the Wheat Flour Consumption went up by around 50lbs per person per year, which is about 50g per day.
- 50g of wheat flour contains about 36g of carbs, so 36% of the increase in carbohydrate intake is directly attributable to wheat (probably pasta and bread).
No matter what happened to the quantity (I think that it probably increased), the quality of carbohydrates decreased significantly during the obesity epidemic.