Great idea @Goonergal. I'm going to make it my business to check out status' for 'in remission' or 'reversed ' and ask if they would like to join. I know there are many who have done tbis but their status don't reflect it but i won't have time to ask everyone directly. Thanks again.Hi @Debandez and thanks so much for taking this on.
I’m happy to help you out - let me know if you need anything doing. I have kept 1 pair of jeans and 1 t-shirt from my larger days, so will be able to join in that aspect!
Wondering whether it would be worth putting a link to this thread on the before and after photos thread? In fact, I’ve just done it!
To complete the cross reference, that one is here:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/sharing-inspirational-photos-after-lchf-anyone.145539/
Great idea @Goonergal. I'm going to make it my business to check out status' for 'in remission' or 'reversed ' and ask if they would like to join. I know there are many who have done tbis but their status don't reflect it but i won't have time to ask everyone directly. Thanks again.
Great idea @Goonergal. I'm going to make it my business to check out status' for 'in remission' or 'reversed ' and ask if they would like to join. I know there are many who have done tbis but their status don't reflect it but i won't have time to ask everyone directly. Thanks again.
Not at all. I think most of us are just well controlled. If we went back to the old way of eating there would be trouble ahead! You're in!!!Good idea! Although I have to say that I choose not to use either term as I’m firmly in the diabetes is forever camp. Hope that doesn’t disqualify me!
Hi @xfieldok i did the same - as before when I used to yo yo with strict low carb diets I would loose and then regain plus a bit extra! So idea was that I’d get rid of big clothes to charity to stop me going backwards.I never thought to keep any of my old stuff. It went in the bin or charity shop as appropriate.
Good idea. Something like this? ' do you classify yourself as in remission, reversed or well controlled and why?'Like @Goonergal , some people won't subscribe to the teminology, but you could take Professor Taylor's definition (I posted it on a thread somewhere, but can't recall where), and ask folks who match the criteria to identify themselves, whethere or not they agree with the terms.
That could be an interesting thread in itself, methinks.
Good idea. Something like this? ' do you classify yourself as in remission, reversed or well controlled and why?'
The sub 48 is also what Virta health use to define Reversed/Remission etc as well as Dr David Unwin so it seems to be getting overall acceptance.. even though I consider it a bit silly..It's not my place to tell you how to structure your thread, but I might be inclined to just ask people if the tick the boxes for Professor Taylor's suggested terms of reference for remission/reversal. People will then undoubtedly comment, adding their own view on whether those terms constitute reversal/remission/control/nothing.
It depends if you are trying to assess how many people have reached that criteria, then you have identified those who may be motivated to join in your "movement" (only word I can think of at the moment). As I understand it, folks have been struggling a bit to remember who has done well.
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm personally not wedded to Professor taylor's proposed definition as being correct or that that is the only measure of success, I'm just suggesting it as an easy to understand definition, put out there from someone who has done respected research.
That sounds like a plan. Thanks. Do you have a link to his terms of reference at all. I've had a quick Google but if you have a link that would be easier.It's not my place to tell you how to structure your thread, but I might be inclined to just ask people if the tick the boxes for Professor Taylor's suggested terms of reference for remission/reversal. People will then undoubtedly comment, adding their own view on whether those terms constitute reversal/remission/control/nothing.
It depends if you are trying to assess how many people have reached that criteria, then you have identified those who may be motivated to join in your "movement" (only word I can think of at the moment). As I understand it, folks have been struggling a bit to remember who has done well.
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm personally not wedded to Professor taylor's proposed definition as being correct or that that is the only measure of success, I'm just suggesting it as an easy to understand definition, put out there from someone who has done respected research.
I would have thought 41 but 48 works in my favour on this one!The sub 48 is also what Virta health use to define Reversed/Remission etc as well as Dr David Unwin so it seems to be getting overall acceptance.. even though I consider it a bit silly..
https://twitter.com/lowcarbGP/status/1012075029352341504I would have thought 41 but 48 works in my favour on this one!
Completely agree but...I would have thought 41 but 48 works in my favour on this one!
Brilliant @bulkbiker . I will be printing this off and reading in full. Not easy reading lying in bed on your mobile!!! Appreciate the info. Thanks."The choice of HbA1c cut-off for the co-primary out- come measure was between 48 mmol/mmol (the diagnos- tic threshold for T2DM) and 42mmo/mmol (diagnostic threshold for IGT/pre-diabetes). There is existing evidence that weight loss of 5-10 kg (mean 4 kg at 4 years) will prevent the development of T2DM for 58 % of patients with IGT/pre-diabetes, and that ~55 % will revert to a completely normal HbA1c of <42 mmol/mmol [34]. The aim of DiRECT being to achieve remission of established T2DM, it was considered most appropriate to adopt the cut-off 48 mmol/mmol for the primary outcome measure, with 42 mmol/mmol as a secondary outcome measure."
This comes from
http://www.directclinicaltrial.org.uk/protocol/DiRECTProtocol.pdf
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