is that the total weight of the veg?So the maximum vegetable intake in a day is 200g and the minimum 100g.
Yes, that is the total raw weight of the vegetables. I suppose I am aiming for 20-30 g carbs daily, but I don't count carb by carb. It is more important to me to keep my bg as low as I can while not losing more weight and consuming at least a minimum of vegetables. I don't only get carbs from vegetables. There are also carbs in cheese, eggs, nuts, double cream, Greek yoghurt, even sardines (though I have more or less written them out of the script since I found that out). In any case, I am being pragmatic. It's no use my telling my bg that lucylocket says I should be able to eat more low carb vegetables, or that I've only had x number of carbs today so it has no right to go and stay up. I eat to my meter, as far as I can given that I live with gastroparesis.is that the total weight of the veg?
for example, if I eat 100g of runner beans, I am only consuming 3-4g of carbs.
which is why i asked about your daily intake of carbs and how low carb you aim for. I would have to eat a huge amount of veg to consume even 20g of carbs a day from them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_dietHave you a link for Atkins being harmful?
Thanks, I shall be most interested to read these when I have a moment.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet
There are others but I am going back to the early days of Atkins, when the internet was not so actively used, and most early posts were not stored for posterity. Nowadays there are techniques to swamp out bad press and adverse comment
This is what Webmd has to say about the ORIGINAL diet (#1)
https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/how-safe-is-atkins-diet#1
The revamped diet reduces the protein and increases the vegetable content, and also is higher fat,
I feed them very small pieces of cheddar. They have a short life but die happy!oh Yuk - those poor mice being fed that rubbish. Can we get then for cruelty to mice?
Will have a quick look at those.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_diet
There are others but I am going back to the early days of Atkins, when the internet was not so actively used, and most early posts were not stored for posterity. Nowadays there are techniques to swamp out bad press and adverse comment
This is what Webmd has to say about the ORIGINAL diet (#1)
https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/how-safe-is-atkins-diet#1
The revamped diet reduces the protein and increases the vegetable content, and also is higher fat,
So pleased that you are looking after them and that their short lives are now so happy. I love cheese also and have just had some organic mature cheddar - will save some for the mice.I feed them very small pieces of cheddar. They have a short life but die happy!
there is no need to be so defensive. I have been trying to get more info from you with the purpose of exploring what, if anything, might help, especially as you are so under weight. I will not bother now.It's no use my telling my bg that lucylocket says I should be able to eat more low carb vegetables,
My cat Loves mice. She will play with them for hoursSo pleased that you are looking after them and that their short lives are now so happy. I love cheese also and have just had some organic mature cheddar - will save some for the mice.
No, but earlier I read Bulkbiker say he ate almost no veg, and have also heard him be very dismissive of diets like WFPB which contain a lot of veg. He also eats loads of saturated fat and is a keen advocate of keto. So I assumed the fat and the no/little veg were somehow part of the keto. I am also unsure what keto is for, as lots of TV personalities do it and they can't all be T2. But I never bothered to investigate because the mention of very low veg put me off.are you asking @Brunneria why she has stopped eating veg for now? If not, I dont understand the question as you can low carb and eat lots of veg, as Brunneria has explained just now.
You do not have to eat lots of saturated fat, or lots of any other form of fats. But then, that depends on what you consider to be lots.
you can use keto to lose weight, maintain weight, gain weight- whatever you need it for.it all depends on how much you eat. Likewise with lowering BG.
I am going to page @bulkbiker to give you the short guide to what keto is, as he is my keto guru on here.
And you waste chocolate walnuts on mice!Mice prefer walnuts covered in Belgian chocolate to cheese. I did my own scientific experiment....
You only make yourself type2 diabetic if you stop the keto. Well to be precise.... Become more insulin resistant..Hello,
Just come across this article.
https://news.sky.com/story/keto-diets-could-increase-diabetes-risk-11465771
As per usual with this kind of thing it all seems a bit fishy and is based on mice. It does say that diabetics have been shown to benefit from Keto but in doing so contradicts itself.
Basically, Keto could make you Type 2. But if you get Type 2 Keto could help.
Ridiculous! No wonder some people are so disillusioned.
How do you know they aren't diabetic?No, but earlier I read Bulkbiker say he ate almost no veg, and have also heard him be very dismissive of diets like WFPB which contain a lot of veg. He also eats loads of saturated fat and is a keen advocate of keto. So I assumed the fat and the no/little veg were somehow part of the keto. I am also unsure what keto is for, as lots of TV personalities do it and they can't all be T2. But I never bothered to investigate because the mention of very low veg put me off.
research and google are wonderful things, as are critical thinking and logic.No, but earlier I read Bulkbiker say he ate almost no veg, and have also heard him be very dismissive of diets like WFPB which contain a lot of veg. He also eats loads of saturated fat and is a keen advocate of keto. So I assumed the fat and the no/little veg were somehow part of the keto. I am also unsure what keto is for, as lots of TV personalities do it and they can't all be T2. But I never bothered to investigate because the mention of very low veg put me off.
@lucylocket61@bulkbiker
I would like to hear/see your take on it, so please post for us others to see!!
It's all about the amount of carbs. If you want to 'spend' your approx. 20g carb 'allowance' on veg then you can. I have butter on my veg instead of gravy.No, but earlier I read Bulkbiker say he ate almost no veg, and have also heard him be very dismissive of diets like WFPB which contain a lot of veg. He also eats loads of saturated fat and is a keen advocate of keto. So I assumed the fat and the no/little veg were somehow part of the keto. I am also unsure what keto is for, as lots of TV personalities do it and they can't all be T2. But I never bothered to investigate because the mention of very low veg put me off.
A small amount of fat is an essential part of a healthy, balanced diet. Fat is a source of essential fatty acids, which the body can't make itself. Fat helps the body absorb vitamins A, D and E. These vitamins are fat-soluble, meaning they can only be absorbed with the help of fats.
This would also finish me off faster than the Eatwell plate and I would be straight back injecting Novarapid and Lantus in industrial quantities. I use my 20g of carbs on quite a lot of low carb above ground vegetables - it surprised me just how low carb some vegetables are - the bonus for me is that I don't inject insulin anymore.I have just looked up WFPB diet and i couldnt even go there: https://www.forksoverknives.com/whole-food-plant-based-diet/#gs.2zz4O44
I cant eat fruit (sugar spikes)
tubers and starch veg (ditto)
wholegrains( ditto except a couple of slices of wholemeal bread a day)
legums(sugar spikes)
And NO fats at all. Even I, in my very limited knowledge, know humans need some oils/fats in our diet.
From the NHS website:
it basically a high carb vegan diet. For example, Chick peas are 61% carb. Millet is 73% carbs.
It would finish me off faster than the Eatwell plate would. Perhaps its Ok for non T2's, apart from the potential vitamin deficiency of fat soluble vitamins, but not for me.
I had no idea there were people out there recommending such a dangerous diet for T2's
edited to add: so this diet is not wrong because it contains a lot of veg, but because it contains virtually nothing else, and is very high carb.
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