I saw in one thread a few months back where a new member was (and I quote) told to “change your ethics”. It happens, not always as abruptly as that, but it happens. There’s never a problem in asking someone if it’s for health or ethical reasons, there’s many reasons people adopt various diets."Told" I doubt that very much..
I will admit I tend to ask vegetarians if they are doing it for moral reasons or "for their health" because if they are here then the "for their health" argument has evidently failed.. in that case I would suggest that re-introducing meat would be a sensible therapy.
What people eat is entirely up to them...
Unfortunately it is very difficult to discuss the topic without discussing aspects of a non-animal diet or mentioning veg. The OP is asserting a stagement along the lines of the proposed World Diet is unhealthy for them or worse. This is also my experience when trying this type of diet. It is also my family's experience.Ladies and gents - could we please stick to the thread topic, or take discussion elsewhere?
See China where there were laws passed on New Years Eve to reduce meat consumption by 50% this year, and they are indeed enforcing it in that country.Once again though, the topic under discussion is that if Walter Willet (and the like) has his way, what everyone eats will be entirely up to him. We aren’t discussing the rights and wrongs of any particular personal choices. We are discussing the likelihood of those choices being effectively removed by despicable forces who believe their ethics should be enforced upon every human being on planet Earth. This is real. It is happening. See Canada for avoidance of doubt.
This is my experience also.The OP is asserting a stagement along the lines of the proposed World Diet is unhealthy for them or worse. This is also my experience when trying this type of diet. It is also my family's experience.
Once again though, the topic under discussion is that if Walter Willet (and the like) has his way, what everyone eats will be entirely up to him. We aren’t discussing the rights and wrongs of any particular personal choices. We are discussing the likelihood of those choices being effectively removed by despicable forces who believe their ethics should be enforced upon every human being on planet Earth. This is real. It is happening. See Canada for avoidance of doubt.
Welcome! My husband is actually an ordained minister in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. His workplace was obliged by religious discrimination rules to provide him with spaghetti and meatballs on a Friday, as per Pastafarian belief. I make low carb spaghetti with vegan meatballs for myselfBeggar this for a game of monkeys. I am converting to Pastafarianism, and if anyone disses my choice then I will have them for religious discrimination.
Right on que, now rice is a better protein than meat (Courtesy of Walter Willet, Dr Katz):To add further, never underestimate the power of “guidelines”. Guidelines dictate public policy. They will influence education. They will determine what is eaten in schools and hospitals. They will determine what is taught in medical schools, and they will influence public perception. Mission creep will soon result in taxation and eventually the effective removal of choice.
This is what is being discussed in this topic. Not whether or not someone feels aggrieved by someone else’s choice of words in a different thread six months ago.
no it doesnt. the derailing may be casuign some feeling, which is not only you, but the subject matter. We are discussing government controlled choices which are harmful to some of us.I can tell my mere presence causes ill-feeling
That would be so wrong. All I would say, is live by how you feel (physically and mentally), by your meter and bio markers. i.e. if your protocol is working for you, do what makes you happy. I will be honest and say, I struggle with the choices some make for children; I never say anything direct....but if I was asked I would have to stay true to my observations.I’ve seen several vegetarians on this very forum told to rethink their ethics and to start eating meat.
Unfortunately it is very difficult to discuss the topic without discussing aspects of a non-animal diet or mentioning veg. T
Welcome! My husband is actually an ordained minister in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. His workplace was obliged by religious discrimination rules to provide him with spaghetti and meatballs on a Friday, as per Pastafarian belief. I make low carb spaghetti with vegan meatballs for myself
Aye, the 'Redefining Protein' thaing can only be described as shennagigans.Catchup TV: Tonight
Right on que, now rice is a better protein than meat (Courtesy of Walter Willet, Dr Katz):
It was part of my plan to contact my brother by another mother (last name) in a few months. I know some have objected to Shawn's click bait early stuff (just to get recognised), but he is factual and not dogmatic.
In addition I was flicking through my recorded material on Sky+, when I found by accident:
"Meat: Is it Still Safe? Tonight" - this was aired at prime time 19:30 6th June on ITV - for those who do not believe a conspiracy is going on, meat eater or not, maybe the timing and content may change your mind
I have seen some of your posts, which I feel would help and assist new and experienced Vegans with meal variety. You have every right to put alternative views. For full clarity I believe some Vegans can thrive and sustain under that protocol; taking the anecdotes at face value this is evident. I have issues with "dirty" Vegan, but I aslo have problems with "dirty" Keto. I struggle when I am told, I can reverse diabetes on bananas, potatoes, basically starches.Incidentally, I only posted at #105 to enhance what Mel dCP said, and then again later to clarify what I'd said.
I'll bow out again now. I can tell my mere presence causes ill-feeling although I don't know why when it wouldn't occur to me to tell someone else how to live their life.
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