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SueJB said:
Cheers thanks. @Scott-C Is foot on the floor different from lump dump or dawn phenomenon? I like the idea of creative insulin techniques and I think I've been having my creative moments. Certainly, I've been having a prick without food after all, I was told on DAFNE that it was good to keep within range. There was no mention really of blousing without food. Seems like another reason I should get a cgm
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They’re different. DP is predictable and happens every day in the wee hours. FOTF depends - for me at least - usually starts within an hour of me crawling out of bed.
 
SueJB said:
Brilliant @himtoo it's in the diary. @Knikki said the Crewe one was posted in Discussions and I must admit it's not a forum I look at much. I always associate Crewe with changing trains being born in Chester. Manchester is my old uni ground and I've got mates there so that'd be fun. Thanks
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oh wow !!!!! amazing --- LOL that was one of the big reasons we chose crewe -- it is so accessible from brum . manchester . preston . north wales , liverpool .......etc etc
i cant wait to meet you !!!!!!
 
Robinredbreast said:
Manchester is my birth place, what part are you meeting up in, but I won't be able to get there.
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venue yet to be finalised but somewhere in walking distance of Picadilly -- got 2 manchester natives coming up with venues and talking to them to make sure we are made welcome food wise ( vegan , low carb , vegetarian , carb feast , etc etc )
 
Hi, @himtoo , stick me down as a provisional "yes" for the Manchester meet!

Only a few hours on the train from Edinburgh, I trotted down there for a short holiday a year or two ago purely because the Hairy Bikers mentioned Mancunian black pudding Scotch eggs and wanted to try them, couldn't find them anywhere, so some local knowledge second time round may help!
 
Hi all, back from the dog event day thing, had a good time, met some fab hounds, makes waiting for puppy arrival even harder.

@Mel dCP yep, still up for meeting up depending, as someone else said, on when & where.
 
Same, I'd like to go too. I have a deadline on the 9th August, so I am available after that. :D I'd be happier too because it'll mean I've completed the stage 2 of uni hell. :hilarious: (I can celebrate the happiness with everyone) :D
 
I’m good for the Cotswolds Aug 11 or if that’s no good for others, best Aug Aug 17 to 19 as I could combine it with travelling to or from the lovely East Midlands. I’m cheerful to make a special trip if that doesn’t suit everyone, and I’m free.
 
ert said:
I haven't come across this (yet). The world of tea is a big place. I will try to source it. I'm really enjoying tea.
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It's a Polish infusion @ert no tea leaves were harmed in its production:)
 
Scott-C said:
No idea if these things are officially categorised, I suppose they're all in the same sort of category, although dawn phenomenon seems to happen in the early hours when we're fast asleep whereas foot on floor is more to do with getting up and moving about.



One of Stephen Ponder's Sugar Surfing themes is that the pancreas intervenes to keep non-T1 bg stable about a dozen times a day, so how can we expect to emulate that with a few shots? Of course, if we get basal right, we very often can, I've had many good days on only a couple of shots, but if it's not playing by the rules, it just seems obvious to tweak it with a few more.

I do wonder sometimes, though, whether the cgm is making me overthink it at times. I suppose, even 3 years into it now, the cgm is still a bit of a novelty, and even though I'll never get tired of the hypo alerts, I wonder whether I'll pay less attention to it like the 27 years before that where provided I was not crazily out of range I wasn't too fussed about it.
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@Scott-C I won't be around that long so I'd like to nail it now
 
Mel dCP said:
They’re different. DP is predictable and happens every day in the wee hours. FOTF depends - for me at least - usually starts within an hour of me crawling out of bed.
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Ta, so what's the difference do you think between dawn phenomenon and liver dump? or am I over analysing?
 
I'm away for a bit of the summer but it'd be great to do a southern meet @Mel dCP even though I'm a Cestrian
 
SueJB said:
@Scott-C I won't be around that long so I'd like to nail it now
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I learned long ago to never discuss things like age, hairstyles and dress choices in too much detail with the distaff side, but, on the age front, you're, erm, what's the best way of putting this, in your latter years, serious complications can take decades to develop, and generally only when folks are running in the high teens for extended periods.

At your age and provided you're reasonably sensible about things, minor bumps to 10/12 for short periods wouldn't be a worry - you're far more likely to die of old age than T1 complications.

That's not to say don't try for a decent amount of time in a 4 to 8 range, cgm helps immensely with that, but just don't sweat the outliers too much.
 
SueJB said:
Ta, so what's the difference do you think between dawn phenomenon and liver dump? or am I over analysing?
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SueJB, the dawn phenomenon, also called the dawn effect, is the term used to describe an abnormal early-morning increase in blood sugar (glucose) — usually between 2 a.m. and 8 a.m. — in people with diabetes. It doesn't occur in normal people or in people managing their insulin. I certainly don't experience it now that I've started using insulin.
The liver dump is something that can be controlled by eating breakfast as Scott-C suggests, but it's not something I'm experiencing. I thought it more a type 2 problem or someone with insulin resistance, which I don't have. It's something Dr Jason Fung writes about.
Dr Berinstein writes about gluconeogenesis, which is where your muscle and vital organs are broken into glucose and thereby raising blood sugars, happening when you don't have enough insulin. I've certainly experienced this before starting insulin.
 
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SueJB said:
Ta, so what's the difference do you think between dawn phenomenon and liver dump? or am I over analysing?
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Both dawn phenomenon and feet on the floor effect are liver dumps (your liver dumping glucose). Only difference is that dawn phenomenon happens when still asleep and feet on the floor when you get out of bed.
Your liver can dump glucose for other reasons as well. For instance when going low (it keeps non diabetics out of hypo territory mostly but even helps many diabetics to get out of a hypo) or when having an adrenalin reaction.
 
Eating before 11am for me just aggravates my after effects of my DP. It's easier for me just to wait to eat.
 
Marie 2 said:
Eating before 11am for me just aggravates my after effects of my DP. It's easier for me just to wait to eat.
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Kind of the same for me. I don't avoid food in the morning, but I do avoid carbs in the morning, except for a very little amount from the milk in my coffee.
I guess those few carbs get mopped up by the insulin I take before getting out of bed to counter the feet on the floor effect.
 
Note to self: Don't forget to keep a close eye on bg after eating unusual and very high carb food.
Nothing dramatic, at 9.3, but very unnecessary as I should have spotted the rise 2 hours ago and expected to need a top up too.
 
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