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Veggie Burger that bleeds?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian Diet Forum' started by Oldvatr, Jan 14, 2019.

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  1. derry60

    derry60 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    I don't blame anybody for eating Vegan foods, but what I dislike is the food companies upping the prices just because they have changed a product from Vegetarian to Vegan and it has become a top topic in the media. I sometimes do not always want meat, but to be honest just my own choice I do not like the look of ingredients that go into vegetarian foods., If I want a veggie burger I am inclined to make my own. Glamorgan veg sausages are easy to make, just veg and cheese or I will have a vegetable omelette
     
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    LooperCat Type 1 · Expert

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    Many of the vegetarian products contain milk and eggs. So it’s a recipe change, not a name change. Vegan quorn ham slices are £2 a pack; the vegetarian one (contains milk) is £1.50.
     
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  3. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Faux meat and Lab meat are ideals paid for by the Bill Gates Foundation who are funding the research I believe. The article does state that it is aimed at carnivores.(oops, I misspelt that as carbivores - LOL) I suspect there is a flexitarian following too.

    As an aside, and it is my thread
    This is where we are heading. Behold the new Canadian version of Eatwell with NO Dairy, No Meat on it at all.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can.../+Media&utm_campaign=Shared+Web+Article+Links
     
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  4. Hotpepper20000

    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    There have already been doctors and dieticians disagreeing with this version of the Canadian food guide.
    But lets be fair the majority of the population didn’t follow the food guide before the change and unlikely to do so now.
     
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  5. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if countries begin taxing animal products such as meat and dairy.

    More ridiculous things have happened. Such as convincing six billion people that fat is bad for them when every cell in their body is made out of it.
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Processed food whether meaty or veggie based can be useful but alongside the Veganuary theme has anyone seen Tom kerridge's Fresh Start? The Real Food campaign is pushing the right messages (there's an appropriate quote to the effect that humans are the only people clever enough to manufacture our own food but the only species stupid enough to eat it) where ever you are on the spectrum from carnivore through to vegan or low to high carb.
    Diets regarded as 'faddy' or self righteous always get a healthy bashing in the press and I think we are lucky enough to have the freedom of that debate. We should not be protected from being offended from others' views and let's carry on calling out ill informed headlines and advice.
     
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  7. Ponchu

    Ponchu · Well-Known Member

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    Message: testosterone is toxic

    This food is consistent with the message.
     
  8. Ponchu

    Ponchu · Well-Known Member

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    But....

    There is an overarching movement for both coercion and submission.

    Many young people are willing to yield

    NY mayor said today that too much wealth is in “the wrong hands.”

    His hands are pushing to take control.

    Freedom is shrinking in all fields.

    Tying cows to climate is vital to those who seek control.
     
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  9. Hotpepper20000

    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes!!
     
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    Hotpepper20000 · Well-Known Member

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    All I can speak to is the response that the new food guide has received here. There is big push back from the local beef ranchers and dairy farmers.
    The two twenty somethings in my life don’t give much weight to what a food guide says and happily eat meat.
     
  11. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    I havn't read the whole piece (my old tablet does not like the format) but putting animal and vegetable proteins together in the same group is imo disingenuous. It is tantamount to lying by omission.
     
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  12. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Apart from a pork chop, my favourite, I'm ok!
     
  13. Pinkorchid

    Pinkorchid Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I not a vegan or a vegetarian but I quite happily have some of the vegan and vegetarian foods along with my normal diet and have found them very nice and tasty.
     
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    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    uBlock Origin works great in blocking adverts and getting into the Independent.

    Here's a pix of a half gnawed vegan bloody meat burger from the Independent. Pretty ****** burger with out fried onions, tomato and beetroot on it.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    I wonder how they make the proteins separate from the starches in the first place - and are the starches just washed down the drain?
    The sources are a mixture of protein and starch, so when just the proteins are required, how far will they go to protect the environment?
     
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    LooperCat Type 1 · Expert

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    Oldvatr Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    LooperCat Type 1 · Expert

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  20. Tipetoo

    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    So are Stick Insects...
     
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