Thanks for this, @AndBreathe. In fact, I haven't found any culprit at this stage and I'm just examining the ultra-low carb factor, having been reading about the symptoms of low-carb flu which, for some unlucky people, can continue past the first couple of weeks of ultra-low carbing.Debrasue - I haven't read of others suggesting increased pain related to low carbing, but perhaps I missed something. As an alternative, have you considered whether you may be having a food intolerance issue, leading to the pain?
Many moons ago, after a nasty virus, following which I had a period of acute polyarthritis. As I didn't screen positively for RH, I was prescribed painkillers at (in my view) savage levels.
In the end, I saw a herbalist who diagnosed a food intolerance. Once I pinpointed the culprit, by elimination, I improved significantly and quickly to become pain-free and flexible again. Still, very rarely, if I overload on the acidic stuff; like pickles, or tomatoes, or in the old days, citrus fruit, I can feel it first in my finger and ankle joints.
Sorry for derailing the thread somewhat. I'll give myself a good stern glare.
Thanks for this, @AndBreathe. In fact, I haven't found any culprit at this stage and I'm just examining the ultra-low carb factor, having been reading about the symptoms of low-carb flu which, for some unlucky people, can continue past the first couple of weeks of ultra-low carbing.
Yes, dairy fats - butter. cream and cheese. They were my original suspects, so I eliminated them for a couple of weeks but didn't feel any different. Bizarrely, today (following the introduction of a few more carbs yesterday) my pain levels have been better, my vision less blurred and I didn't feel dizzy at all - all of which have been an issue over previous weeks. It remains to be seen whether it's purely coincidence.When I saw the herbalist, she speculated the issue would be with a favourite food or foods, in that sometimes our "favourites" are in fact reactions to almost an addiction/craving. Is there anything you have increased, when you reduced the carbs?
Yes, dairy fats - butter. cream and cheese. They were my original suspects, so I eliminated them for a couple of weeks but didn't feel any different. Bizarrely, today (following the introduction of a few more carbs yesterday) my pain levels have been better, my vision less blurred and I didn't feel dizzy at all - all of which have been an issue over previous weeks. It remains to be seen whether it's purely coincidence.
I totally agree with the craving/addiction concept and don't plan to reintroduce proper bread any time soon!!!
I'm still a committed proponent of LCHF, but I'm not yet 100% sure that ultra-low carb is the way forward for me...
Yes, I do @Brunneria - I either make my own or I use chicken Oxo if I've not had time to make any. It's made a big difference to the leg cramps I used to suffer from. I also take a daily multivitamin, plus calcium, potassium and magnesium, which I started when I was eliminating dairy and have continued with.Forgive me if you have already talked about this, but you are doing the extra minerals, and the (bone) broth, aren't you?
It is going to get even more important as we move into the warmer weather.
Let us know what your bg reading is after the chips good luckB: coffeencream
L: chickem, mushroom, caulirice
S: jerky and 70%
D: steak and chips. Yes, you read it here first. Chips. A small portion DOWSED in vinegar. It is an experiment. Oh, and green salad.
Wish me luck.
Hi sollis that sounds so good what did it do to your bg levels after deffinately will try thisB: cup of tea.
L: chicken Kiev, peas.
D: hallimi? And vegetable kebabs( red and yellow pepper, onion, corgette).
S: water, sugar free vimto( my favourite).
Yesterday I made a banana pancake. Just mash a small banana with two eggs. Dribble of oil in pan and fry. Now this is 15g carbs with small banana, but this was for both breakfast and lunch so didn't need anything till dinner. So for two meals 15g is reasonable. Higher carbs the bigger the banana, but you could split it in two for you hubby/wife.![]()
Let us know what your bg reading is after the chips good luck
We have to keep trying things out bet you enjoyed the chips.Hahahaha!
As an experiment, is was totally successful.
As an attempt to reduce a chip spike using masses of vinegar and accompanying fibre (I had a teasp of psyllium husks in water, with it) it was a complete and utter disaster.
They were standard chip shop chips, with a nice large home cooked steak and salad, and the psyllium. I ate about 2/3 of the portion.
Blood glucose as follows:
7pm: 6.2
8pm: 7.5
9pm: 9.7
10pm: 12.9
11pm: 8.6
12am: 7.9
1am: 7.4
2am: 6.1
7am: FBG of 7.2 (highest in a looooong while)
Speaks for itself really, doesn't it? lol
As you say, great experiment, though! Thanks for sharing. (Must go and cross "chips & vinegar" off my menu for dinner tonight - ****!)Hahahaha!
As an experiment, is was totally successful.
As an attempt to reduce a chip spike using masses of vinegar and accompanying fibre (I had a teasp of psyllium husks in water, with it) it was a complete and utter disaster.
They were standard chip shop chips, with a nice large home cooked steak and salad, and the psyllium. I ate about 2/3 of the portion.
Blood glucose as follows:
7pm: 6.2
8pm: 7.5
9pm: 9.7
10pm: 12.9
11pm: 8.6
12am: 7.9
1am: 7.4
2am: 6.1
7am: FBG of 7.2 (highest in a looooong while)
Speaks for itself really, doesn't it? lol
I don't test after meals only before, and I must admit I'm getting a bit slack with that.Hi sollis that sounds so good what did it do to your bg levels after deffinately will try this