What have you eaten today? (Low carb forum)

[Larissima]

I don't know how you intermittent fasting people do it. I went a little overboard on nuts last night and my BS was elevated more than usual this mornings, so I decided to do fat only for breakfast. I was STARVING (stomach growling loudly during a meeting...oops!) by late morning.
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Loads of water/herbal tea works well for me when missing a meal. Fills the void!

 

[Brunneria]

I aim (though I don't always manage it) to keep my BG no more than 7 at any time, and to not rise more than 2 mmol/l at 2 hrs after food.

Often don't quite manage it, and sometimes I blow that goal out of the water! But I call anything higher than my goal a spike.

B: coffeencream x2
S: 9bar
L: hummus and coyo
D: chicken thighs in garlic and lemon Two onion bhajis (last of this batch of batter), green beans and the last field mushroom, baked with Stilton. Rather an overload of flavours, but very enjoyable.

 

[vintageutopia]

I can't fast or be hungry....I have to eat lol...protein in the form of meat always leaves me hungry but fish, cheese and eggs fill me up nicely with no hunger lurking round the corner

Apparently, I need to eat too! That fasting business is for those stronger than I. I am weak and want food.

I'm another can't-be-hungry person.
Oh, it's ok for a bit.
But sooner or later, I will start eating again, and the hungrier I got, the more inappropriate my food choices will be.

But... I do often have coffeencream for brekkie.
Maybe you should have used more cream?

Exactly. Now, I am off kilter for the day and want to consume every carb in sight. I haven't, but I want to. If I can just hold out until bedtime, I will be fine. Then, a proper breakfast for me in the morning. With cream, of course.

 

[BooJewels]

Thanks for that...am really getting fed up cos no matter what I eat it goes way more than I would expect...to the top limit 8.5 for example for what I had for dinner tonight from 5.8...and pork or a chicken breast take me even higher....I thought protein was okay on low carb...maybe as you say I am not using enough fat. I will try adding more and see if it helps.

I ate a bit too much at dinner tonight (portion control largely) and was pretty full after dinner, but had a rise of 2.7, same as you did. That's a smidge higher than I'm happy with. Like @Brunneria, I try to keep it around 2 after my main evening meal - it's usually a bit less earlier in the day. My meal was very similar to yours, in that I had chicken breast stir fried with lots of green veggies and finished with a creamy peppercorn sauce - that rich sauce is what makes it filling and slows down the process. I don't consider 2.7 a spike, just a predictable indication that I was a bit of a piggy tonight.

 

[lizdeluz]

When you say you are anti sweetener, do you mean you don't want the sweetness, or the chemicals, or the chemical flavour, or the gut consequences of polyols?

I've had some very unpleasant reactions to stuff like aspartame. saccharin and similar.
and some consequences from the polyols they put in boiled sweets.
But I was amazed and delighted to be able to use xylitol and erythritol in small doses without any problems at all. I'm also content that the small quantities I eat are not harmful to the same extent as the 'chemically' ones are (e.g. in a regular can of zero coke or something).

One of the problems with sweetening icecream is that anything frozen tastes less sweet than if it were room temperature. So you end up having to sweeten the icecream mix much more than you think it needs.

My standard recipe is 3 parts frozen berries, 2 parts double cream, and a hefty dose of erythritol, whizzed in a powerful blender (or the ice will burn out the motor) and eaten immediately. It takes about 15 seconds to make. But if you then try and put it in the freezer it will set like concrete, so has to be eaten immediately.
Oh, the ordeal.

I would like the sweetness, but some sweeteners I have tried taste like metal, and I steer clear of all sweeteners on the (probably wrong) assumption that they aren't doing me much good.

I chucked away my failed salty ice-cream, blushed at the waste, and made another batch. This time it worked. So 2 egg yolks whisked with a teaspoon of coffee granules, mixed with bashed up pecans, 40g chopped up 85% chocolate, a handful of blueberries, a splash of vanilla extract and a little cinnamon, all stirred into 300ml double cream whisked into soft peaks. Divided into 6 or 8 lidded pots and frozen. The little pots need 20 mins thawing time. This ice-cream isn't sweet, but, oh joy, it isn't salty!! It's acceptable in my new non-sweet diet, which I'm getting a taste for.

 

[JMW]

Hi everyone my initials,are JMW. I really admire you all,for taking your issue with carbs and doing something like this forum to
attempt to get it under control. That is why, I want to figure this out. I have always gone by sugar grams when eating. I was 18,
away at college when I was consuming gallons of Apple cider.( nothing could quench my thirst) When I went home to see Dr.
I was diagnosed with type 1D. My mother was a nurse. She told me I had better learn how to take care of myself.( such support)
My father told me the reason I got it, was I was drinking beer at school.......all my fault! ! That is the way everything was usually
handled at home.Five girls, (I was the youngest girl) The last child was the one and only boy. My mother and father's favorite child.
I have been a diabetic for 39 years.I just started on minimed insulin pump w/sensor. It is awesome! I have been on this for 10 days,
and already notice so many different things. Breakfast carbs--23 lunch--32 dinner--25. I was told 5 yrs. ago follow plan for 30 carbs, a meal fruits,vegetables,fish other carbs. no red meat........comments please weight 140lbs height 5`3. JMW

 

[Brunneria]

Hi everyone my initials,are JMW. I really admire you all,for taking your issue with carbs and doing something like this forum to
attempt to get it under control. That is why, I want to figure this out. I have always gone by sugar grams when eating. I was 18,
away at college when I was consuming gallons of Apple cider.( nothing could quench my thirst) When I went home to see Dr.
I was diagnosed with type 1D. My mother was a nurse. She told me I had better learn how to take care of myself.( such support)
My father told me the reason I got it, was I was drinking beer at school.......all my fault! ! That is the way everything was usually
handled at home.Five girls, (I was the youngest girl) The last child was the one and only boy. My mother and father's favorite child.
I have been a diabetic for 39 years.I just started on minimed insulin pump w/sensor. It is awesome! I have been on this for 10 days,
and already notice so many different things. Breakfast carbs--23 lunch--32 dinner--25. I was told 5 yrs. ago follow plan for 30 carbs, a meal fruits,vegetables,fish other carbs. no red meat........comments please weight 140lbs height 5`3. JMW

Hi and welcome @JMW !

Good to see you. Have you been sticking to those carb levels for 39 years? That is amazing. We have another low carbing T1 on here, @donnellysdogs , you may find it interesting to compare notes with her.

We all focus on carb grams (excluding fibre) rather than sugar.
I'm delighted the pump is working out
- and I used to love cider too....

Have a good read of the forum. You'll find we're a friendly bunch.

 

[vintageutopia]

Welcome JMW! So glad you joined us. This forum is chock-full of great advice, great people, and helpful resources. When I first started, I would click on the links found in some of the member's signatures to read more information. And...I am still reading!

I know you already know this, but I am going to say it anyway...your diabetes is NOT your fault. It sounds like you haven't had the opportunity to hear that from too many people in the past 39 years and I felt I should say it. Glad to hear that the pump is working so well for you too.

I just started the LC journey a couple of months ago, but it is definitely making a difference in my blood sugar control. Ask questions and you will get answers.

 

[vintageutopia]

@Brunneria I am drinking coffee with extra cream this morning. Let's see how far it gets me.

 

[Gezzabelle]

Breakfast....2 eggs scrambled in butter....coffee.......from 5.0 to 5.5 two hours after
Lunch.........Half a Lidl High protein roll buttered, 2 slices of bacon, fried tomato...coffee....from 5.5 to 6.2
Dinner........Rump steak cooked in butter with onions, cauliflower and broccoli...NO gravy
Few raspberries with No added sugar jelly (1.2g)....from 5.1 to 6.4 after 2 hours....Yessss I got it right woohooo,....does a happy dance
Here's hoping my numbers are good today ...So far so very good...I read somewhere that starting your day with protein helped lower bg for the day and that lunch result could show there is a little truth in it? The half Lidl roll usually puts my reading up by a definate 1 on it's own so am very happy with that result

 

[BooJewels]

I had a conversation with one of the nurses about breakfast content last week and she was of the opinion that you need more carbs and protein first thing to set you up for the day, when your metabolism is working hardest to fuel you. I always have a large breakfast and these days have 1 scrambled egg on toast and Greek yogurt with seeds. Even though I have the bread, my BG usually only rises by a maximum of 0.2 or 0.3 - some days it's even lower than before - today it was up 0.2. I get a larger gap in an evening when I'm getting tired and presumably my metabolism is starting to slow down for sleep. I know that I eat too late in an evening.

Well done on your good numbers.

 

[Gezzabelle]

I had a conversation with one of the nurses about breakfast content last week and she was of the opinion that you need more carbs and protein first thing to set you up for the day, when your metabolism is working hardest to fuel you. I always have a large breakfast and these days have 1 scrambled egg on toast and Greek yogurt with seeds. Even though I have the bread, my BG usually only rises by a maximum of 0.2 or 0.3 - some days it's even lower than before - today it was up 0.2. I get a larger gap in an evening when I'm getting tired and presumably my metabolism is starting to slow down for sleep. I know that I eat too late in an evening.

Well done on your good numbers.

Maybe that's where I go wrong sometimes...I always skip breakfast and wait 2 or 3 hours after getting up to eat lunch...at least it wasn't the high numbers I was expecting...I needed that little boost thank you...you helped a lot with just the right words when I had hit the wall crying

 

[BooJewels]

[...]I needed that little boost thank you...you helped a lot with just the right words when I had hit the wall crying

Please don't get despondent, you're doing really well, I wish my numbers were as good as yours. I'm largely stuck between about 6 and 11 and am still 8.2-ish every morning . I'm just happy that they're not spiking 15 after every meal, no matter what I ate, as they were in February. That truly is a proper spike! My BG graph early this year looked more like an ECG trace.

You're very new to it and it takes time to get to grips with it, you're gradually honing down what regime will work for you long term - think back a few weeks and reflect on how much you've learned since. Since going on insulin in March, I'm having to start from scratch to some degree too, with a new way of thinking. I wish I'd understood what I do now 20 years ago. It's a perpetual learning curve.

 

[Gezzabelle]

Please don't get despondent, you're doing really well, I wish my numbers were as good as yours. I'm largely stuck between about 6 and 11 and am still 8.2-ish every morning . I'm just happy that they're not spiking 15 after every meal, no matter what I ate, as they were in February. That truly is a proper spike! My BG graph early this year looked more like an ECG trace.

You're very new to it and it takes time to get to grips with it, you're gradually honing down what regime will work for you long term - think back a few weeks and reflect on how much you've learned since. Since going on insulin in March, I'm having to start from scratch to some degree too, with a new way of thinking. I wish I'd understood what I do now 20 years ago. It's a perpetual learning curve.

Thank you so much....that's what I love about this forum...the never ending help and support just when you need it most. I guess it isn't just people new to all this that have to learn. Onwards and upwards...another day...another challenge...

 

[Brunneria]

That's fascinating.
I have to steer completely clear of carbs at breakfast, or I spike more than any other time of the day.

The only carbs I seem to be able to cope with are something like a hash brown or a slice of fried bread in a Full English breakfast.

I definitely have a better carb tolerance from mid afternoon onwards. Maybe it is the activity of the day reducing insulin resistance, opposed to my dawn phenomenon boosting bg in the morning...

B:coffeencream
S: 9 bar (yum)
L: crustless quiche and coyo
D:
will be garlic lemon chicken, mediterranean veg and green beens, with maybe berries and cream

 

[BooJewels]

I definitely have a better carb tolerance from mid afternoon onwards. Maybe it is the activity of the day reducing insulin resistance, opposed to my dawn phenomenon boosting bg in the morning...

I have insulin in a morning, so I suspect this is a significant factor, although I have it with my evening meal too, but don't get the same benefit, I think because I'm probably less active at that time of day and getting tired.

 

[pms543]

Am not happy lol

Decided to try these 9 bars and to start with had a half peanut one as mid morning snack.
Within 20 mins I had an increase of 2.4mols so didn't get chance to test at 1 and 2 hours

Assuming they are not suitable for me then!!

 

[Deleted member 108625]

Thank you so much....that's what I love about this forum...the never ending help and support just when you need it most. I guess it isn't just people new to all this that have to learn. Onwards and upwards...another day...another challenge...

I couldn't agree more! No matter what our battles are, each and every one of us on the forum is there to support everyone else

 

[Brunneria]

Am not happy lol

Decided to try these 9 bars and to start with had a half peanut one as mid morning snack.
Within 20 mins I had an increase of 2.4mols so didn't get chance to test at 1 and 2 hours

Assuming they are not suitable for me then!!

Blimey!
Half a bar did that? That's only about 6g carbs.

The only thing I get that kind of reaction is wheat. A single slice of bread would do that to me, but I think I'm wheat intolerant
- you don't have a peanut (or other nut/seed) intolerance, do you?

I'm so sorry it didn't work for you.

 

[DeejayR]

Today I tried phoopsies (oopsies with psyllium husk) posted by Humblebee and reposted by Dunelm. Delicious, bit like drop scones. A welcome interlude from almond cheese bread. Half are in the freezer for another day (probably tomorrow )
Rhubarb in a little water is stewing as I write. I plan to make a sort of mousse.