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What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by HarrisonK, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. Debandez

    Debandez Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Your animations are cracking me up. You have a develish sense of humour! Very funny.
     
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    gennepher Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    fbg 7.9

    Thunderstorms promised today by weatherman...
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    and torrential rain
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    but I am hoping for
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    Have a good day x
     
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  3. Debandez

    Debandez Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Gee thanks @jjraak

    [​IMG]

    Couldn't find a blush so you're having a hug. I'm sure someone will point me in the right direction soon though.

    I listened to these yesterday and enjoyed them too. Here you go.




    Love Fung and Ken

    Whilst you have the time make the most of it. Hope you are feeling more yourself now.

    We have to help each other. That is how it works when you're diabetic it seems.

    B12 is so important. Since my sister had her gastric bypass @10 years ago she has to have regular injections. She gets very low before them and has zilch energy but after she has it she could do the work of 1000.

     
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  4. Debandez

    Debandez Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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  5. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    We just had torrential rain here with some grumbly thunder following a llloonnnggg lightning show. Last seen heading northeast, as do the majority of thunderstorms here but I will hope this one will blow itself out over the Atlantic so it won't reach you. The KittenCat came out of hiding before it was all over and fell asleep on me.
     
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  6. Debandez

    Debandez Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Just sharing the love

    https://deliciouslyguiltfree.com/

    20% off up to 11pm tonight.

    Got a stack of cakes from real food rocks. Delicious.

    10% off first order any other time.

    Expect the devil to pop up any second! I'm ready for him today ' go forth and multiply' - just so the mods don't ban me ;-) only 2g per cake or less so shove that on her fork and eat it ya little devil

    I don't do kitchen so brilliant for me.
     
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  7. dunelm

    dunelm Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that but I’m having difficulty seeing where the massaging took place in both the original study looking at Beta cell failure and insulin resistance and then the larger DiRECT trials?
    https://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal/#scientificinformation

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(19)30068-3/fulltext
     
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  8. karen8967

    karen8967 Type 1 · Expert

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    5.0 for me have a good day everyone
     
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  9. dunelm

    dunelm Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Trying to catch up after yesterday. Thank you all so much for your anniversary thoughts.

    The wonder wheel of savoury afternoon teas and a sneaky grab at a slither of ginger cake ran in at 6.0 this am.

    Spent the afternoon wandering round the little visited Yards in the west cliff area of Whitby after a visit to Elizabeth Bothams tea rooms for afternoon tea. Later, meeting up with friends in the evening for dinner.

    Have a great day if you can, hugs for all if you need one.

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  10. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Bats may enter only at the front of the building?

    I love those lovely white houses! And the bins on parade for NBD.
     
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  11. Debandez

    Debandez Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    @jjraak I'm looking for a good diabetes stats slide if you come across any whilst you are on t'internet. For my presentation. I can only have 2 slides and a short video so want max impact. Needed by Friday. No pressure ;-) I have one that's ok from DUK but may be better. You're such a whizz at finding stuff! Or if anyone else has pointers. Much appreciated.
     
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    Bubbsie Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Have a look at DUK's site it reads:

    Almost half (45.6%) of those who took part in the programme were in remission after a year.

    The second year results of the trial showed that, of these people, 70% were still in remission by the end of year two.

    Overall, more than a third (36%) of people were in remission of their Type 2 diabetes two years after taking part in the programme.

    I would say the information is misleading...badly presented & according to them the study is not even finished yet...like patting yourself on the back before you've finished the race.
     
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    johnpol Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Morning all from a grey and misty North, I'm fully expecting fantastical beasts to be roaming around creating mayhem but no, its the doggo's chewing all and sundry and only sounding like beasts. The meter of doom unexpectedly launched a 5.1 me this morning, now imagine my surprise as it sat there looking all innocent and demure! I'm fully expecting it to rampage around the office like a whirling dervish later, strewing paperwork in all directions whilst I'm teaching First Aid. Oh wait a minute it's me who has thrown paperwork all over. take care in the wet weather that is forecast for may areas today, right must dash, plans and things to do.


    Take care everyone.
     
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    Viv19 · Well-Known Member

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    Sat with bloody finger first thing this morning trying to turn on the meter - ‘replace batteries now!’ What? I replaced them last week - this is very frustrating. But they were supermarket own brand, obviously not up to the job. No testing until OH has bought some more for me - he’s a good guy. In the meantime I’m drinking my second tea and trying to persuade myself that I should go to the gym.
     
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  15. Bubbsie

    Bubbsie Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I've just ordered some Debs.
     
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    jjraak Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    point taken, @dunelem

    i rather think it's more a case of over presenting a failure as a success.

    as far as i understand it.

    "The first year results showed that it’s possible for some people to put their Type 2 diabetes into remission using a low-calorie, diet-based, weight management programme, delivered by their GP. Almost half (45.6%) of those who took part in the programme were in remission after a year.

    The second year results of the trial showed that, of these people, 70% were still in remission by the end of year two.

    Overall, more than a third (36%) of people were in remission of their Type 2 diabetes two years after taking part in the programme."

    OR

    Sadly after a whole year of the programme, only 45% of those patients returned their BG levels to Pre diabetic stage.

    By the end of year two, 100 out of the 149 failed to reach or maintain remission* less then 48mmol
    (* Pre diabetic levels NOT Normal levels)

    • Normal: Below 42 mmol/mol (6.0%)
    • Prediabetes: 42 to 47 mmol/mol (6.0 to 6.4%)
    • Diabetes: 48 mmol/mol (6.5% or over)

    It's just so demoralising.

    i just see so many on here with a change of diet that isn't something stolen from Tenko,
    that makes a REAL difference to their health in months.
    HBA1c in my case down to normal 40%
    and i was slow AND higher then most..other have smashed that HBA1c score, and maintaining it.



    Wish i could find the video of THIS guy talking
    he states the case FAR better then i ever could.

    https://www.livingloud.org.uk/single-post/2018/12/14/International-Diabetes-Summit-2018

    i quote part here, but all of it is worth quoting.

    "I am delighted that the NHS and DUK finally acknowledge that type 2 diabetes can be put into remission through diet.
    It just beggars belief that you would subject 5,000 people to a brutal starvation diet
    when surely good science would trial low cal, against the moderately low carb vs keto options too
    so we can all discover which is the most effective way to help people."

    Dan Parker.
     
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  17. Bubbsie

    Bubbsie Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    Bubbsie Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Morning...sitting here sniffing away I knew there was something lurking in the background...I have a cold!...waiting for the deluge that we are expecting...I do need to go out for supplies but wondering if I can stretch out what I have instead of facing the rain & high winds predicted...woke to an unsurprising 6.9
     
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    Viv19 · Well-Known Member

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    So two cups of tea (with milk - it has to be) I’ve finally tested. 6.7. Hmmm. Aggravation could well be included in that number, especially the battle to cut the blasted batteries out of their sealed-in safety. :-/
     
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  20. Muddy Cyclist

    Muddy Cyclist Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    5.6 today 6 am sorry about your cold Bubbsie, I have one, caused havoc on my Monday bike ride, light head, thought it was my Blood Sugar but luckily the result of a cold I hope and not a flare up of my Fibromyalgia.

    Debandez what energy you have! Below are some thoughts on what you are fighting for.

    Many of the T2D’s on this site and it’s forums know there is a frightening amount of poor advise handed out by most NHS professionals. What you are doing to change this is amazing and although I do not totally understand all that you report, I am learning, I am also sure I have missed many posts and this next comment may have been discussed.

    Case 1 Me Muddy cyclist.
    I was diagnosed T2D in April and had all the usual bad advise from the health centres Diabetic Specialist Doctor. Fortunately it is in my nature to question, in this case medication, diet, long term expectations, choosing to do nothing until I have done some research. Even when I returned to the same Doctor and explained my plan of action, no meds, LCHF diet, increased exercise he was not supportive, still offering medication and playing the ace card “you could well be insulin dependent in 3 months” sorry I know I have posted that comment before. I am now sure I made the correct decision but there was always that niggling doubt because the Doctor is the professional.

    Case 2 My next door neighbour.
    My next door neighbour was just diagnosed T2D and saw the same Doctor who I am sure gave him the same advise. My neighbour thinks the doctor’s advise is great and agreed to take the medication and eat all the wrong foods, thinking cutting out some sugar in his tea, eating less chocolate and biscuits and eating low fat everything will do the job. He knows the success I have had since April but really is not interested in finding out how LCHF diet could help, or how medication may harm him, his choice of course.

    My point is a huge part of the population is like my neighbour, honest decent people who trust professionals and do not question. So for the majority any program that the NHS rolls out will be seen as the correct approach. People have the gift of freewill and make their choices so need alternative options offered to them and of course they are not. I am not sure how or if you will combat this but really admire your efforts and hope you have real success.

    PS I tried to fill in the latest NHS survey about the new Type 2 website they want to launch. Sadly it does not work properly on my iPad making in impossible to complete, and the questions are very strange, sums up the NHS.
     
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  21. PenguinMum

    PenguinMum Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Morning All. 6.3 today and I think it is because Ibaccidentally missed lunch then at 4pm I snacked on rollitos and cold bacon from the dridge and then a few hours later had dinner and then Oppo. It works best for me to stick to small brekkie, small lunch and then dinner. I had given up snacking a while ago. This routine keeps me happy.
    @Bubbsie hug from afar for the cold, it really does feel like winter. @SaskiaKC what a sweet pic of the KC though hope she didnt unravel your bed. Hug to her from B&D for the storm. @Debandez the things we do for our children, well done to you and Eric, brilliant job. I am either off to Kent later but more probs tomo morning to collect my lovely friend from hospital and look after her for a few days.
    Batten down the hatches everyone. Stay well, stay safe.
     
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