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What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

SaskiaKC said:
I am sorry to hear about your cold. No wonder you'd been feeling off. I hope you are able to stretch out supplies on hand; I know, that is hard for me to do. Stay in, take care of yourself. Hug.
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Thank you Saskia it's just a summer cold...I did venture out I figured there would be less bustling in the shops & a better chance of a parking space...I was right so loaded up with supplies...back home watching the rain stream down...doing something utterly unspeakable at the moment...some more coffee & a few Cadbury's dairy milk chocolate fingers...but don't tell anyone else...shhhhhhhhh;)
 
DJC3 said:
This is exactly how I felt when we moved to Cornwall from the London suburbs. We finally chose this village which is not a pretty little Cornish fishing village, it’s not quaint or picturesque but it does have a doctor’s surgery, post office, pharmacy and a couple of shops so I can walk to them if I need to and there is a bus route to the bigger towns nearby.
I still miss having a coffee shop in walking distance and the variety of shopping we had before as well as better transport links ( the bus to Truro takes over an hour) but we have all we need and the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for us. It’s about reaching the balance that works for you good luck.
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Hug, @DJC3 , and thank you. :) Your timing is so good -- last night during the storm I started really weighing up the advantages and disadvantages. Your village sounds very good for y'all. And this city is definitely not good for me. This month I have finally been able to put a good chunk into my moving savings account, and here we are nearly halfway through the month and I haven't had to dip into it yet, so ... we'll see ...
 
Bubbsie said:
Thank you Saskia it's just a summer cold...I did venture out I figured there would be less bustling in the shops & a better chance of a parking space...I was right so loaded up with supplies...back home watching the rain stream down...doing something utterly unspeakable at the moment...some more coffee & a few Cadbury's dairy milk chocolate fingers...but don't tell anyone else...shhhhhhhhh;)
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My lips are sealed
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and so is my keyboard.
 
DJC3 said:
This is a bit depressing. I’m sometimes over 120 mg/dl (6.7 mmol/l) at 2 hrs even after a low carb meal. It’s usually because my pre meal reading was a bit higher and I assumed that if the rise was <2 mmol/l I’d be ok.
Looks like more tweaking to be done, also perhaps I should check after 1 hr too - but that might also be scary
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and me too @DJC3

as i read it that rise up, is not the real issue

i start around 5.5 most meals
i then hit 7.5 +/- after some meals
anything over, then i adapt for next time

but i have not only gone slightly over,,but once or twice crashed straight through into double figures :wideyed::woot::***:
for which i have taken MAJOR note and reversed down asap.

No, the issue is a sustained heightening of your bloods, i believe
anything over 8 mmol. then damage will occur, as i read the link.
( presumably because of the length of time it takes to come back down UNDER 8 mmol )

The length of time is not discussed,

But consider that being in the sun can have short or long term effects
should we never be in the sun or simply avoid long exposure and take better precautions when we are ?

I monitor meter responses, as i think we all do.
Where i go over 8 (nice easy figure) i amend foods accordingly for next time
i rarely start any meal real down like yourself and many others in the 4's or low 5's

so 4-6 5-7. 6.-8 would seem a normal scores i guess,, though i would if was me try to slow down the 6-8.

But when you first start out* HOW do you do that, *** :***:
( *and i include my holiday jaunts where my figs are up against my normal ones, but still in range.)

Hence why the control IS so important.

and that reducing the carbs early on, does as @Debandez quotes via Dr Fung
"empty the sugar bowl inside of us"..a process i think that helps us GET to those levels
(8 mmol and under) quicker.
And where i do agree the ND, has great effect

And while it's pertinent to us, simply having some control reduces our overall risks

Imagine how we would be coping if we all followed that sage advice NOT to test and eat all that we did BEFORE diagnosis, just a little less of it..:arghh::arghh::arghh:

No wonder with those before us having so little choice, that the disease is known as " Progressive "
something i and many on here hope to prove entirely wrong.

As did Jenny Ruhl, the Author

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Debandez said:
Every little helps . Hoping that the week of diabetes coming up on 24th August will do great things. In one of the biggest selling papers. It has to help.

I was listening to you tube videos yesterday on the subject. I find it amazing that diabetes.org.uk are ploughing money into their way of gaining remission ie the 8 week (or so) shake (people must be starving, torturous). Yes, hba1c comes down (it will with lack of food) but then what? How do they sustain it? Low cal apparently. The 2 sites couldn't be further apart.

All I know is from day one of changing to low carb higher than my norm fat I've rarely been hungry. It was quite incredible actually.

She doesnt seem happy to me. What do you think?

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/researc...ht/research-spotlight-low-calorie-liquid-diet
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Have bookmarked the video to watch when we get home as the broadband here is not very good. The mobile signal is worse as there is absolutely no signal at the hotel most of the time.

Am looking forward to playing it later in the week.
 
Debandez said:
I've not even read previous posts but noticed this. Not sure what it's about and haven't time to find out ****!!! This thread is so funny!
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@Debandez I opened a can of worms, finding out how people could add animates smilies/emojis to their posts. This is my post in the thread about it. https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/th...ose-full-on-chat.163627/page-350#post-2111294
Choose a smilie by clicking it and either copy the ubb code in the textbox above all the smilies, or if on a computer right click the image, and paste into the text box when replying or creating a post.
 
jjraak said:
Something I found useful as a guide..
https://www.bloodsugar101.com/must-you-deteriorate

It's long article
But while it discusses merits of staying under ,7.7 mmol..
the crux of control comes down to.this

"..the strategy is simple.
use your blood sugar meter to test your blood after every meal and
eliminate from your diet the foods that raise your blood sugar to
140 mg/dl at one hour
And 120 mg/dl at 2 hours.

This strategy has worked for many people whose A1cs were as high as 13.0% at diagnosis who were able to bring them down to the 5% range within a few months.

I have maintained an A1c in the 5% range for most of the past 18 years.
I have developed none of the classic diabetic complications. "

Good enough for me to take serious notice
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Excellent - yes, eating to your meter is the way to get a nice flat graph - so glad I got the wonder wheel from Abbott
 
ARRRGH! My pet dracula has been busy today 5.7 at 6am BUT 2 hours after a 15gram carb usual food breakfast 7.4 so retested in case of error but sadly correct :banghead: no idea why. So feeling fed up on a wet and dull day, back in long trousers, I comfort eat for lunch, half a cauliflower with melted cheese and bacon heaven knows what Dracula will find 2 hours on.

Still I did manage to finish my pastel work of a friends Labrador, always more creative when depressed.

The down side is I was looking for the highest offer on my Caulii in the Cauliflower Shortage thread as it was probably worth its weight in gold :(

My friends lab captured in Pastels
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Muddy Cyclist said:
ARRRGH! My pet dracula has been busy today 5.7 at 6am BUT 2 hours after a 15gram carb usual food breakfast 7.4 so retested in case of error but sadly correct :banghead: no idea why. So feeling fed up on a wet and dull day, back in long trousers, I comfort eat for lunch, half a cauliflower with melted cheese and bacon heaven knows what Dracula will find 2 hours on.

Still I did manage to finish my pastel work of a friends Labrador, always more creative when depressed.

The down side is I was looking for the highest offer on my Caulii in the Cauliflower Shortage thread as it was probably worth its weight in gold :(

My friends lab captured in Pastels
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Mmhh, that's good @Muddy Cyclist ..i'm no artist but i liked it.
well done.:D

Morning BG's probably a mix of food and the inability of some of us to utilise carbs the same at different times of day.

Not noticed for me, but i have others say that they avoid more carbs in the mornings
..but load up a little more at night when they seem to tolerate them better.
( i may have that the wrong way round)
also i hear exercise can raise your BG's before it starts to lower..in case it was after bike ride

But score still in a range i'd be happy with.

Enjoy the day.
 
Yesterday - after a fbs of 5.1 had a full English breakfast. Normally I wouldn't have the sausage or the black pudding but because all the food at the hotel is amazing and locally sourced I had both a sausage and a slice of black pudding and to make it even worse - some natural yoghurt.

16g of net carbs - which spiked me to 9.1 two hours later - followed by a crash to 3.9 after a six mile walk around Sutton Hoo. I have not seen a 9.1 for at least 2 years so I was a bit cross with myself that I had done it.

Sutton Hoo was amazing and the weather was sunny and warm. My 13year old Labrador loved the 6 mile walk - so pleased that his foot is OK.

I had coffee and clotted cream and BS went up to 4.5 which was OK. Had a delicious and tender sirloin steak and green salad followed by cheese and celery.

So although carbs below 20g I awoke to a 6.1. So breakfast was natural yoghurt followed by bacon, two fried eggs and mushrooms. No sausages or black pudding. Absolutely no idea what BS was after that as we dashed straight out to Woodbridge early so we could walk around the town and by the river before the bad weather started.
 
Very good Southern drawl, @jjraak !
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Thank you.
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In your place I would eat something because I've learned I feel better when I eat something healthful and filling. I bought more meat than usual yesterday because I'm going to give LCHF another try, at least 'til next doctor's appointment.

I am glad you have found someone to talk to.


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jjraak said:
"I am delighted that the NHS and DUK finally acknowledge that type 2 diabetes can be put into remission through diet.
It just beggars belief that you would subject 5,000 people to a brutal starvation diet
when surely good science would trial low cal, against the moderately low carb vs keto options too
so we can all discover which is the most effective way to help people."

Dan Parker.
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I really like this quote. Probably because I 100% agree with it.
 
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