What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

[ianpspurs]

@dunelm thank you for sharing that wonderful artwork and enjoy the precious time with your grandchildren. @Annb enjoy the medieval music CD. @gennepher what a sorry tale of just one poor person caught up in the skip fire that is currently raging across this land. How did we get here? Rhetorical question but will people think next time before placing their x marks the spot? Yes, we get the government we collectively deserve but no one deserves to be put in that situation. Here's another example although many (most?) on here will be on the priority list. Small boats and Biibby Stockholm are bigger wedge issues for Rish! and the tail that is wagging the dog. He needs the anti-vax votes internally and at the GE. We desperately need a government, of whatever colour, not a series of ever more ludicrous stunts designed to back Starmer into a corner and garner the votes of the/we property owning boomers. The asylum seekers ain't going to kill people - COVID did and will again. Just to end this on an upbeat note. Truss has allegedly submitted her (dis?) honours list
Edited for something vaguely in the same hemisphere as the English language.

 

[alf_Josiah]

Good Morening Ladies and Gentlemen and those that braved outside in only their loin cloths.

2 special mentions @gennepher and @Annb
1 for persevering over the medical and medication supply issues, the 2nd for achieving yet another birthday, birthdays are a privileged denied to many, best put on your colanders, the standard head dress for those that follow the Pastafarian religion and skipped the light fandango while turning cartwheels across the floor.

Ahem and whoops reverted back back to my Procol Harum days. Oh happy days, drat that’s another song.

Reverting back to organised and accepted religions I believe that their are over 3006. A small thesis has been written on the subject by Terry Pratchett Titled Small Gods, an interesting read.

Mrs J and all of me, me’s and myself plus the others all 6 in total returned yesterday from the land of our fathers, literally.
Mrs J had a big catch up with her family some extremely new only 10 months old and some in their 80’s, during the day lots of tea and koffy was drunk, during the evening well best left un said. My sort of reality is returning.

Now have a great day all stay safe and try and avoid the road works on the heads of the valleys road in south Wales.

 

[gennepher]

Oh Gennepher, what kind of a medical service is it where you live? What does the Health Board think it is doing? They don't have to let every nurse off at the same time, even though it is summer and children on holiday - not unless they only have agency nurses. That practice and that Health Board look as though they are not fit for purpose and should be censured. I gather your MP is no use either in helping to sort out your difficulties. I don't know what you can do, except maybe make a fuss in the press or other media. Do take care of yourself as best you can and try not to let it get to you.

Thanks. It has been a lousy medical service since 2018 @Annb
The GP who ran it was invited to leave under a cloud, because of some misconduct. The other GP's left quickly, and the NHS took over running it. And that was a joke.

Done the MP bit a couple of years ago. And alerting the papers as well, but excuses were piled on excuses. Promises and promises. Nothing happened.

That is really odd every nurse being let off for the summers holidays. I have no idea if they are agency nurses. There were no nurses at this surgery for some years during Covid. These nurses that are there now began around January of this year, 2023. But how the surgery is actually run financially, I do not have a clue.

 

[gennepher]

@dunelm thank you for sharing that wonderful artwork and enjoy the precious time with your grandchildren. @Annb enjoy the medieval music CD. @gennepher what a sorry tale of just one poor person caught up in the skip fire that is currently raging across this land. How did we get here? Rhetorical question but will people think next time before placing their x marks the spot? Yes, we get the government we collectively deserve but no one deserves to be put in that situation. Here's another example although many (most?) on here will be on the priority list. Small boats and Biibby Stockholm are bigger wedge issues for Rish! and the tail that is wagging the dog. He needs the anti-vax votes internally and at the GE. We desperately need a government, of whatever colour, not a series of ever more ludicrous stunts designed back Starmer into a corner and garner the votes of the/we property owning boomers. The asylum seekers ain't going to kill people - COVID did and will again. Just to end this on an upbeat note. Truss has allegedly submitted and honours list

Thanks Ian.

 

[gennepher]

Good Morening Ladies and Gentlemen and those that braved outside in only their loin cloths.

2 special mentions @gennepher and @Annb
1 for persevering over the medical and medication supply issues, the 2nd for achieving yet another birthday, birthdays are a privileged denied to many, best put on your colanders, the standard head dress for those that follow the Pastafarian religion and skipped the light fandango while turning cartwheels across the floor.

Ahem and whoops reverted back back to my Procol Harum days. Oh happy days, drat that’s another song.

Reverting back to organised and accepted religions I believe that their are over 3006. A small thesis has been written on the subject by Terry Pratchett Titled Small Gods, an interesting read.

Mrs J and all of me, me’s and myself plus the others all 6 in total returned yesterday from the land of our fathers, literally.
Mrs J had a big catch up with her family some extremely new only 10 months old and some in their 80’s, during the day lots of tea and koffy was drunk, during the evening well best left un said. My sort of reality is returning.

Now have a great day all stay safe and try and avoid the road works on the heads of the valleys road in south Wales.

Thanks Alf
Sounds like you had an interesting time....

 

[Krystyna23040]

Well - here it is. The day when 78 years ago my mother put in the final heroic effort to bring me to life. As Em told her mum,, it's the mother who should be given presents for all the hard work they did. Not that she will refuse to take any presents that come her way in two weeks' time.

It is als the day when I have decided I need to use the wheelchair to get around the house! Sad day, but I'm hoping it won't be permanent.

BG this morning was 7.9, pretty reasonable for me, but it was in the 4's and 5's up until last evening, when it suddenly shot up to 7.4. Remained stable overnight though. That's 2 hours in bed, despite the new pills and another 4 hours in the chair in the kitchen. I don't think the new pills are going to do - it took ages to get to sleep - if anything they enlivened me - and I kept on waking with my normal pains plus the new ones, amplified.

Happy birthday @Annb. A really good idea to use the wheelchair in the house while you are in so much pain.

 

[Krystyna23040]

I hope the end of year accounts and lesson plans don't stop you having a relaxing day. I can see Mr Ks point when at one stage England only had 12 players. I'm not convinced by Borthers or Angeball but neither of them bother to ask for my advice. Has Mr K heard from Borthwick?

Sadly Mr K hasn't heard from Steve Borthwick
It is always so nice to catch up with all the admin at a leisurely pace instead of frantically rushing to get everything done.

 

[Lamont D]

Well - here it is. The day when 78 years ago my mother put in the final heroic effort to bring me to life. As Em told her mum,, it's the mother who should be given presents for all the hard work they did. Not that she will refuse to take any presents that come her way in two weeks' time.

It is als the day when I have decided I need to use the wheelchair to get around the house! Sad day, but I'm hoping it won't be permanent.

BG this morning was 7.9, pretty reasonable for me, but it was in the 4's and 5's up until last evening, when it suddenly shot up to 7.4. Remained stable overnight though. That's 2 hours in bed, despite the new pills and another 4 hours in the chair in the kitchen. I don't think the new pills are going to do - it took ages to get to sleep - if anything they enlivened me - and I kept on waking with my normal pains plus the new ones, amplified.

Happy birthday @Annb. Have a lovely day!

6.7, a case of don't count your chickens!
Thought I had cracked it!
Lots of wet stuff from the clouds this morning and more until this evening.
Too cloudy to see the meteors as well @lindisfel .
Waiting to go shop for fresh stuff. Gonna dodge the latest downfall!
Have a moronic Monday!
As always best wishes.

 

[Krystyna23040]

Fbg 6.5

I went to the doctorless surgery last Friday to see if anyone could help me with my denied meds I had ordered online. All I had got was declined because my review was overdue. But i had sorted that review a month earlier and everything had been okayed. But the the two elderly receptionists had not a clue, and there was no one else on.

So I had to go back this Monday morning to see if I could sort it. Receptionist said it had all even okayed a month before. But the online ordering of my meds is being declined because it says I need to attend a review, and that I am overdue. Receptionist tries to order my meds for me, but the system refused her. It is coming up that you need an asthma review, she tells me. But we cannot give you an asthma review because we have no nurses to give you one. There are no nurses for anything at all at the moment. Where are they I said? Oh they are all on their summer holidays with their children the receptionist told me. We don't know when they'll be back.

Next to the receptionist who was dealing with me, was another receptionist on the phone. It was obvious someone was asking to see the doctor, and that receptionist was replying on the phone telling them to go to the chemist and the chemist would sort it. No I cannot give you a doctor's appointment because we don't have any doctor's appointments. No, we can't give a doctor's appointments because there are no doctors. I have already explained, said the receptionist to the phone, that you need to go to the chemist and the chemist will tell you what to do from there. It was 8:30 in the morning and that receptionist looked like she had already lost the will to live...

My receptionist then tells me to bypass the computer system, she is printing out last month's prescription again, and she needs to get hold of a doctor ot sign it, and my prescription will be at the chemist by such and such a day.

What about next month, I ask her, will this asthma review take place before next month's prescription? I have no idea the receptionist tells me. When are the nurses due back I ask. The receptionist shrugged her shoulders and her hands palms up, I have absolutely no idea she told me. If online refuses to let you order you medicines next month, then come back here, she told me and I will see what I can do.

Will someone tell me what is going on here?
A so called surgery that has no nurses, during the summer holidays so that the nurses can look after their children.

i have already lost the will to live this morning. I got there at 8 am, the time it said the surgery opened. I had to because I was expecting a parcel this morning, and the window for the parcel delivery began at 9:15 am. But when I got there at the doctorless surgery, the receptionists said it was only open for phone lines between 8 and 8:30 and the desk did not open until 8:30, and for me to sit down and wait. I was tired and falling asleep by 8:30. Then she opened the grill barrier at 8:30 am.

I got home for just gone 9am. And I have gone to bed. The heavens opened as I left the surgery, I couldn't use my mobility scooter as it was raining when I went in. So had to use my walker...

And I am still waiting for some meds from last month from the chemist. Apparently there was a manufacturing problem. And the standby med they could prescribe if the first one wasn't in, also had a manufacturing problem.

I need a long nap now. I'll do the creative and other stuff later, the You Tube thingy...

Where's my electric blanket...

Zzzzzzzzzz.....

What a nightmare @gennepher . It is absolutely appalling. I think you did amazingly well to stay so calm and polite.

 

[Lamont D]

I don't look for presents on this day. Too much of a reminder of the passing years and, anyway, the only one who has any money in the family is my brother and we agreed about 57 years ago not to exchange gifts on birthdays or Christmas since neither of us could afford to buy something that the other might not really want or need, just for the sake of giving something. A card or a phone call is enough to know that someone is thinking of you. I have always made the same rule with Neil and Alistair although Neil has always ignored me and given a small gift anyway, but no card (he doesn't approve of cards) and since he married, Alistair has tended to ignore my injunction anyway. Em usually gives me a hand made card, which is much appreciated.

Neil came along a little earlier with a CD of medieval music which is my kind of thing - very calming, sweet sounds, my brother sent a card and I'm hoping that's it - probably wrong. Probably a visit from Em if I'm lucky. No cake, of course. Why would I? Dear goodness, I sound like a miserable old biddie, don't I? I'm not - just from a family that never had 2 pennies to rub together in the early years and find it hard to change my ways.

We are the same in many ways, mine and the wife 's parents always struggled. And agreement between siblings were made as they grew older and had family's of their own. However, parents obligations always happened.
As long as you got a birthday card, was the mantra. Going back more than to the last century, my mother's birthday was four days before mine. So we asked her what she wanted, in a moment, she replied, just throw a fiver on my card!
So we did, and it saved a lot of hassle!
However, four days later, I received my birthday card. It had a fiver in it!!
And yes! It was the same five pound note! There was a mark from the bank on it!

However, Christmas we always go a bit mad! The full monty! Grotto, lights, prezzies!

 

[Lamont D]

Fbg 6.5

I went to the doctorless surgery last Friday to see if anyone could help me with my denied meds I had ordered online. All I had got was declined because my review was overdue. But i had sorted that review a month earlier and everything had been okayed. But the the two elderly receptionists had not a clue, and there was no one else on.

So I had to go back this Monday morning to see if I could sort it. Receptionist said it had all even okayed a month before. But the online ordering of my meds is being declined because it says I need to attend a review, and that I am overdue. Receptionist tries to order my meds for me, but the system refused her. It is coming up that you need an asthma review, she tells me. But we cannot give you an asthma review because we have no nurses to give you one. There are no nurses for anything at all at the moment. Where are they I said? Oh they are all on their summer holidays with their children the receptionist told me. We don't know when they'll be back.

Next to the receptionist who was dealing with me, was another receptionist on the phone. It was obvious someone was asking to see the doctor, and that receptionist was replying on the phone telling them to go to the chemist and the chemist would sort it. No I cannot give you a doctor's appointment because we don't have any doctor's appointments. No, we can't give a doctor's appointments because there are no doctors. I have already explained, said the receptionist to the phone, that you need to go to the chemist and the chemist will tell you what to do from there. It was 8:30 in the morning and that receptionist looked like she had already lost the will to live...

My receptionist then tells me to bypass the computer system, she is printing out last month's prescription again, and she needs to get hold of a doctor ot sign it, and my prescription will be at the chemist by such and such a day.

What about next month, I ask her, will this asthma review take place before next month's prescription? I have no idea the receptionist tells me. When are the nurses due back I ask. The receptionist shrugged her shoulders and her hands palms up, I have absolutely no idea she told me. If online refuses to let you order you medicines next month, then come back here, she told me and I will see what I can do.

Will someone tell me what is going on here?
A so called surgery that has no nurses, during the summer holidays so that the nurses can look after their children.

i have already lost the will to live this morning. I got there at 8 am, the time it said the surgery opened. I had to because I was expecting a parcel this morning, and the window for the parcel delivery began at 9:15 am. But when I got there at the doctorless surgery, the receptionists said it was only open for phone lines between 8 and 8:30 and the desk did not open until 8:30, and for me to sit down and wait. I was tired and falling asleep by 8:30. Then she opened the grill barrier at 8:30 am.

I got home for just gone 9am. And I have gone to bed. The heavens opened as I left the surgery, I couldn't use my mobility scooter as it was raining when I went in. So had to use my walker...

And I am still waiting for some meds from last month from the chemist. Apparently there was a manufacturing problem. And the standby med they could prescribe if the first one wasn't in, also had a manufacturing problem.

I need a long nap now. I'll do the creative and other stuff later, the You Tube thingy...

Where's my electric blanket...

Zzzzzzzzzz.....

That was how our surgery was last October, November until the new owners came in . Luckily, the prescriptions were delivered every month throughout cos of having a delivery service with the local pharmacy.
I phoned to sort the wifes appointment with the GP, and the phone was answered immediately, an appointment booked. And it took just over a minute.
I have no suggestions except a pharmacy may be able to help. Especially if you get your regular meds there.
someone must be signing the prescriptions!

 

[lindisfel]

Fbg 6.5

I went to the doctorless surgery last Friday to see if anyone could help me with my denied meds I had ordered online. All I had got was declined because my review was overdue. But i had sorted that review a month earlier and everything had been okayed. But the the two elderly receptionists had not a clue, and there was no one else on.

So I had to go back this Monday morning to see if I could sort it. Receptionist said it had all even okayed a month before. But the online ordering of my meds is being declined because it says I need to attend a review, and that I am overdue. Receptionist tries to order my meds for me, but the system refused her. It is coming up that you need an asthma review, she tells me. But we cannot give you an asthma review because we have no nurses to give you one. There are no nurses for anything at all at the moment. Where are they I said? Oh they are all on their summer holidays with their children the receptionist told me. We don't know when they'll be back.

Next to the receptionist who was dealing with me, was another receptionist on the phone. It was obvious someone was asking to see the doctor, and that receptionist was replying on the phone telling them to go to the chemist and the chemist would sort it. No I cannot give you a doctor's appointment because we don't have any doctor's appointments. No, we can't give a doctor's appointments because there are no doctors. I have already explained, said the receptionist to the phone, that you need to go to the chemist and the chemist will tell you what to do from there. It was 8:30 in the morning and that receptionist looked like she had already lost the will to live...

My receptionist then tells me to bypass the computer system, she is printing out last month's prescription again, and she needs to get hold of a doctor ot sign it, and my prescription will be at the chemist by such and such a day.

What about next month, I ask her, will this asthma review take place before next month's prescription? I have no idea the receptionist tells me. When are the nurses due back I ask. The receptionist shrugged her shoulders and her hands palms up, I have absolutely no idea she told me. If online refuses to let you order you medicines next month, then come back here, she told me and I will see what I can do.

Will someone tell me what is going on here?
A so called surgery that has no nurses, during the summer holidays so that the nurses can look after their children.

i have already lost the will to live this morning. I got there at 8 am, the time it said the surgery opened. I had to because I was expecting a parcel this morning, and the window for the parcel delivery began at 9:15 am. But when I got there at the doctorless surgery, the receptionists said it was only open for phone lines between 8 and 8:30 and the desk did not open until 8:30, and for me to sit down and wait. I was tired and falling asleep by 8:30. Then she opened the grill barrier at 8:30 am.

I got home for just gone 9am. And I have gone to bed. The heavens opened as I left the surgery, I couldn't use my mobility scooter as it was raining when I went in. So had to use my walker...

And I am still waiting for some meds from last month from the chemist. Apparently there was a manufacturing problem. And the standby med they could prescribe if the first one wasn't in, also had a manufacturing problem.

I need a long nap now. I'll do the creative and other stuff later, the You Tube thingy...

Where's my electric blanket...

Zzzzzzzzzz.....

Can you try an e-consult they have to be dealt with by the next day?
D.

 

[gennepher]

What a nightmare @gennepher . It is absolutely appalling. I think you did amazingly well to stay so calm and polite.

Thanks. @Krystyna23040
It is not the receptionists fault the way the surgery is run.
But I practised this morning before I went, having an imaginary conversation with a receptionist, so that all the words I used were polite and understanding of her job (in a lousily run surgery).

But it takes a lot out me. I don't understand why I am like this, but I feel ill when I get back home from this kind of situation. I think it must be tension because I am trying hard to lipread correctly, and also understand the receptionist's situation. The tension in my stomach is only just leaving me now.

I feel like I have wasted half the day today.

I am not being negative, but I know the same is going to happen next month with my meds.

 

[gennepher]

Can you try an e-consult they have to be dealt with by the next day?
D.

The snag with that @lindisfel is that my surgery does not offer the e-consult service any more.

It used to up to last year (because I have used it), but does not offer e-consult any more.

Options are becoming more narrowed and more limited...until there are no options...

 

[gennepher]

That was how our surgery was last October, November until the new owners came in . Luckily, the prescriptions were delivered every month throughout cos of having a delivery service with the local pharmacy.
I phoned to sort the wifes appointment with the GP, and the phone was answered immediately, an appointment booked. And it took just over a minute.
I have no suggestions except a pharmacy may be able to help. Especially if you get your regular meds there.
someone must be signing the prescriptions!

This surgery has been the pits since 2018. But because I am with this surgery, no other surgery will take me on, same for anyone else.

I cannot use a telephone with being deaf. I did use e-consult last year, but that service has now been withdrawn, so my actual means of contacting the surgery are now very limited, nil unless I physically go in.

Yes I have collared the Practice Manager for a means of communication for a deaf person, prior Covid I had email and text for 2 way communication. And those I had to fight for. But then Covid and lockdowns, and they had no doctors, no nurses until January 2023.

Now there is no email nor text for 2 way communication. They send me an email or text, but it is now a no reply email, or a no reply text.

The pharmacy cannot help, they pass the buck back to the doctorless GP Surgery which by the way is NHS run.

Yes, it is only a squiggle on the signed prescription, anyone can do a squiggle....

 

[Annb]

Thanks everyone for the good wishes. Now onwards towards 79. Chronological age, of course. In recognised years (by my mind) it is about 26.

 

[lindisfel]

Good Morening Ladies and Gentlemen and those that braved outside in only their loin cloths.

2 special mentions @gennepher and @Annb
1 for persevering over the medical and medication supply issues, the 2nd for achieving yet another birthday, birthdays are a privileged denied to many, best put on your colanders, the standard head dress for those that follow the Pastafarian religion and skipped the light fandango while turning cartwheels across the floor.

Ahem and whoops reverted back back to my Procol Harum days. Oh happy days, drat that’s another song.

Reverting back to organised and accepted religions I believe that their are over 3006. A small thesis has been written on the subject by Terry Pratchett Titled Small Gods, an interesting read.

Mrs J and all of me, me’s and myself plus the others all 6 in total returned yesterday from the land of our fathers, literally
Mrs J had a big catch up with her family some extremely new only 10 months old and some in their 80’s, during the day lots of tea and koffy was drunk, during the evening well best left un said. My sort of reality is returning.

Now have a great day all stay safe and try and avoid the road works on the heads of the valleys road in south Wales.

Oh dear, I don't know about all your religions Alf?

I just follow a Second Temple Jew who was put to death when the Romans crucified him in 33CE and I believe he lives and died for me and you and everybody on the planet.
Shalom to you and all.
Derek

 

[dunelm]

Fbg 6.5

I went to the doctorless surgery last Friday to see if anyone could help me with my denied meds I had ordered online. All I had got was declined because my review was overdue. But i had sorted that review a month earlier and everything had been okayed. But the the two elderly receptionists had not a clue, and there was no one else on.

So I had to go back this Monday morning to see if I could sort it. Receptionist said it had all even okayed a month before. But the online ordering of my meds is being declined because it says I need to attend a review, and that I am overdue. Receptionist tries to order my meds for me, but the system refused her. It is coming up that you need an asthma review, she tells me. But we cannot give you an asthma review because we have no nurses to give you one. There are no nurses for anything at all at the moment. Where are they I said? Oh they are all on their summer holidays with their children the receptionist told me. We don't know when they'll be back.

Next to the receptionist who was dealing with me, was another receptionist on the phone. It was obvious someone was asking to see the doctor, and that receptionist was replying on the phone telling them to go to the chemist and the chemist would sort it. No I cannot give you a doctor's appointment because we don't have any doctor's appointments. No, we can't give a doctor's appointments because there are no doctors. I have already explained, said the receptionist to the phone, that you need to go to the chemist and the chemist will tell you what to do from there. It was 8:30 in the morning and that receptionist looked like she had already lost the will to live...

My receptionist then tells me to bypass the computer system, she is printing out last month's prescription again, and she needs to get hold of a doctor ot sign it, and my prescription will be at the chemist by such and such a day.

What about next month, I ask her, will this asthma review take place before next month's prescription? I have no idea the receptionist tells me. When are the nurses due back I ask. The receptionist shrugged her shoulders and her hands palms up, I have absolutely no idea she told me. If online refuses to let you order you medicines next month, then come back here, she told me and I will see what I can do.

Will someone tell me what is going on here?
A so called surgery that has no nurses, during the summer holidays so that the nurses can look after their children.

i have already lost the will to live this morning. I got there at 8 am, the time it said the surgery opened. I had to because I was expecting a parcel this morning, and the window for the parcel delivery began at 9:15 am. But when I got there at the doctorless surgery, the receptionists said it was only open for phone lines between 8 and 8:30 and the desk did not open until 8:30, and for me to sit down and wait. I was tired and falling asleep by 8:30. Then she opened the grill barrier at 8:30 am.

I got home for just gone 9am. And I have gone to bed. The heavens opened as I left the surgery, I couldn't use my mobility scooter as it was raining when I went in. So had to use my walker...

And I am still waiting for some meds from last month from the chemist. Apparently there was a manufacturing problem. And the standby med they could prescribe if the first one wasn't in, also had a manufacturing problem.

I need a long nap now. I'll do the creative and other stuff later, the You Tube thingy...

Where's my electric blanket...

Zzzzzzzzzz.....

What a calamity. May as well stare into a mirror and ask it for a diagnosis.

 

[dunelm]

I don't look for presents on this day. Too much of a reminder of the passing years and, anyway, the only one who has any money in the family is my brother and we agreed about 57 years ago not to exchange gifts on birthdays or Christmas since neither of us could afford to buy something that the other might not really want or need, just for the sake of giving something. A card or a phone call is enough to know that someone is thinking of you. I have always made the same rule with Neil and Alistair although Neil has always ignored me and given a small gift anyway, but no card (he doesn't approve of cards) and since he married, Alistair has tended to ignore my injunction anyway. Em usually gives me a hand made card, which is much appreciated.

Neil came along a little earlier with a CD of medieval music which is my kind of thing - very calming, sweet sounds, my brother sent a card and I'm hoping that's it - probably wrong. Probably a visit from Em if I'm lucky. No cake, of course. Why would I? Dear goodness, I sound like a miserable old biddie, don't I? I'm not - just from a family that never had 2 pennies to rub together in the early years and find it hard to change my ways.

I never get nor want presents for my birthday - nobody can be bothered to got to the casbahs, souks and bazaars . A nice home cooked meal so that I don’t have to do it is reward enough for surviving another year.

 

[dunelm]

@dunelm thank you for sharing that wonderful artwork and enjoy the precious time with your grandchildren. @Annb enjoy the medieval music CD. @gennepher what a sorry tale of just one poor person caught up in the skip fire that is currently raging across this land. How did we get here? Rhetorical question but will people think next time before placing their x marks the spot? Yes, we get the government we collectively deserve but no one deserves to be put in that situation. Here's another example although many (most?) on here will be on the priority list. Small boats and Biibby Stockholm are bigger wedge issues for Rish! and the tail that is wagging the dog. He needs the anti-vax votes internally and at the GE. We desperately need a government, of whatever colour, not a series of ever more ludicrous stunts designed to back Starmer into a corner and garner the votes of the/we property owning boomers. The asylum seekers ain't going to kill people - COVID did and will again. Just to end this on an upbeat note. Truss has allegedly submitted her(dis?) honours list
Edited for something vaguely in the same hemisphere as the English language.

Thank you @ianpspurs - so much looking forward to seeing that I am not on the Truss list.