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Do equal amount of potato calories do the same thing to your blood glucose levels as fat?It's the same amount of food in terms of energy/calories whether you eat it as fat or potatoes.
Do equal amount of potato calories do the same thing to your blood glucose levels as fat?It's the same amount of food in terms of energy/calories whether you eat it as fat or potatoes.
No, but they do more or less the same thing to my weight. I do understand that , as the body uses far more calories processing protein than it does fat, the net calories the body can glean from the different macronutrients is different. There will be fewer absorbed from protein (70 to 75% of the calories eaten) than from fat (the body absorbs nearly all (97 to 98%) of the calories from fat eaten, and (92 to 93%) of the calories from carbohydrate eaten. This makes protein the best food to eat from a weight loss point of view, and fat the very worst, as almost every calorie from it hits the body's fat stores.Do equal amount of potato calories do the same thing to your blood glucose levels as fat?
No, because it doesn't trigger an insulin response, so it is used, not stored. Why do you think it goes straight into storage? Carbs trigger an insulin response and is stored. Your body can't store unless insulin response is involved.fat the very worst, as almost every calorie from it hits the body's fat stores.
Since you yourself chose to lose such an absolutely phenomenal amount of weight -well over 8 stone- the weight of an entire person- I am surprised you would not want others to have the same benefit.But in terms of satiety and nutritional benefit it's like 2 different worlds.
We can but try and point you in the easiest direction but it seems like you prefer pain to pleasure (which is a shame).
I know I said I was out but.. @bulkbiker DOES want others to benefit from his experiences. Trouble is you are one of those he is trying to help and you won't listen because you have faith in experts rather than his experience. He has helped me understand ketosis and weight loss. I know you won't listen but fat does not make you fat, it's the carbs that go with it that do that.Since you yourself chose to lose such an absolutely phenomenal amount of weight -well over 8 stone- the weight of an entire person- I am surprised you would not want others to have the same benefit.
He does. Your way is not going to work when combined with type 2 diabetes. His way does. He is trying (as we all are) to get you to understand that you are mistaken. Bulkbiker is a strong proponent of what works and supportive of others.Since you yourself chose to lose such an absolutely phenomenal amount of weight -well over 8 stone- the weight of an entire person- I am surprised you would not want others to have the same benefit.
Since you yourself chose to lose such an absolutely phenomenal amount of weight -well over 8 stone- the weight of an entire person- I am surprised you would not want others to have the same benefit.
I am trying to get my FBG down, like most people on here. You pointed out it was 6.52. Yesterday it was 5.9 so I am improving. Ideally am looking to get to a couple of weeks at 4.5, which I think would be perfect.As a general rule, liver and pancreatic fat is the problem, mostly driven by excess dietary fructose and glucose. But carbohydrate restriction burns all this off just as effectively as starvation. Arguably more so, and with none of the downsides of hunger or long term problems associated with torpedoing your metabolism.
In my opinion only, of course.
How many calories a day are you currently eating?I am trying to get my FBG down, like most people on here. You pointed out it was 6.52. Yesterday it was 5.9 so I am improving. Ideally am looking to get to a couple of weeks at 4.5, which I think would be perfect.
Well the quickest way I found to get FBGs down was to do a fat fast, eating as much fat as I could and as few carbs as I could.I am trying to get my FBG down, like most people on here. You pointed out it was 6.52. Yesterday it was 5.9 so I am improving. Ideally am looking to get to a couple of weeks at 4.5, which I think would be perfect.
No, but they do more or less the same thing to my weight. I do understand that , as the body uses far more calories processing protein than it does fat, the net calories the body can glean from the different macronutrients is different. There will be fewer absorbed from protein (70 to 75% of the calories eaten) than from fat (the body absorbs nearly all (97 to 98%) of the calories from fat eaten, and (92 to 93%) of the calories from carbohydrate eaten. This makes protein the best food to eat from a weight loss point of view, and fat the very worst, as almost every calorie from it hits the body's fat stores.
That's why I'm aiming for a full 2 weeks of low FBG levels eg 4.5You don't seem to understand how an insulin response works... carbs require the most amount of insulin and fat requires the least amount. @lucylocket61 explained it quite well.
FBG levels can change from one day to the next for many variable reasons. Just because it is lower one day then the previous could be down to timing of the testing or what you ate the night before and other variables, meter accuracy, how well you slept the night before, stress etc etc. Progress cannot be confirmed by just two FBG readings. I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but it leaves a lot to be desired.
Yesterday orange juice200 cal half tin mushy peas 76 cal half tin chicken in whitesauce 254 cal 100g pasta 400 cal half tin fruit cocktail 128 cal = 1058 cal. Maybe a bit less pasta -son cooked it so I'm a bit unsure.How many calories a day are you currently eating?
Well you're certainly not skimping on the carbs.Yesterday orange juice200 cal half tin mushy peas 76 cal half tin chicken in whitesauce 254 cal 100g pasta 400 cal half tin fruit cocktail 128 cal = 1058 cal. Maybe a bit less pasta -son cooked it so I'm a bit unsure.
That's a LOT of carbs. You clearly are not prepared to either try to reduce carbs, or listen even the calorie counter advice on its page about your low level of calories being harmful.Yesterday orange juice200 cal half tin mushy peas 76 cal half tin chicken in whitesauce 254 cal 100g pasta 400 cal half tin fruit cocktail 128 cal = 1058 cal. Maybe a bit less pasta -son cooked it so I'm a bit unsure.
Edit to correct Actually 200 ml (not cals) orange juice that's only 140 cals but also forgot 3x tea with semi skimmed milk so total cals probably about the same or a tad more.
Yep getting people better all the time.. by mostly doing the opposite of what the mainstream says.. what a crazy world we live in eh?I see that this place is still as crazy as it was when I stopped regularly contributing.
Yesterday orange juice200 cal half tin mushy peas 76 cal half tin chicken in whitesauce 254 cal 100g pasta 400 cal half tin fruit cocktail 128 cal = 1058 cal. Maybe a bit less pasta -son cooked it so I'm a bit unsure.
Edit to correct Actually 200 ml (not cals) orange juice that's only 140 cals but also forgot 3x tea with semi skimmed milk so total cals probably about the same or a tad more.
Yesterday orange juice200 cal half tin mushy peas 76 cal half tin chicken in whitesauce 254 cal 100g pasta 400 cal half tin fruit cocktail 128 cal = 1058 cal. Maybe a bit less pasta -son cooked it so I'm a bit unsure.
Edit to correct Actually 200 ml (not cals) orange juice that's only 140 cals but also forgot 3x tea with semi skimmed milk so total cals probably about the same or a tad more.