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What was your fasting blood glucose? (with some chat)

dogslife said:
6.2 is OK OrsonKartt. Don't beat yourself up. It's always difficult when faced with those buffet type foods and you're hungry! Enjoy today.:)
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TBH if I'd have skipped the wine I could have skipped the kebab but hey ho :-)
 
ziggy_w said:
Hello all.

Caved in and turned on the heater today. It has definitely gotten colder these last few days, though things are forecasted to improve a bit towards the end of week. Also seem to have caught a slight cold, not feeling too bad, however.

Got my results yesterday and they are generally good, though the HbA1c is a bit higher than expected and up from 30 to 36 from last year, though average readings have increased by only 0.1 mmol. As you all know an HbA1c of 36 reflects average blood sugars of 6.0, even I rarely ever get up as high as 6.0, even considering peaks after eating. GP thinks this is probably due to highs during sleep. Not sure I buy into this reasoning, but will probably need to get CGM to know for sure. However, don't want to complain as results are still in the non-diabetic range.

Results also showed no problems with kidneys and cholesterol is good. Calculated the Triglyceride-Glucose-Index (an approximation of insulin resistance when there's no insulin test) and this was for the first time in the insulin-sensitive range.

Blood sugars this morning were 5.4 this morning.

Have a great week all.
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Hi thanks for sharing your results - it must feel odd and annoying to have it higher than your average readings but as you say it’s still on normal range and sounds like your results generally good. Know that you were working exceptionally hard for a long time and wonder if this could have had an impact on your stress and therefore your general bg levels? I know with me food has much less of an impact than stress now! You’ve also had good control for a fair few years so well done you it takes some dedication to keep it up over several years like you have. You’re doing great
 
shelley262 said:
Hi thanks for sharing your results - it must feel odd and annoying to have it higher than your average readings but as you say it’s still on normal range and sounds like your results generally good. Know that you were working exceptionally hard for a long time and wonder if this could have had an impact on your stress and therefore your general bg levels? I know with me food has much less of an impact than stress now! You’ve also had good control for a fair few years so well done you it takes some dedication to keep it up over several years like you have. You’re doing great
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Thanks for your wonderful words, @shelley262. I am still kind of trying to decide what to make of the results. Maybe there's something in the argument that low carb and keeping blood sugars stable throughout the day causes your red blood cells to live longer -- thus skewing the results of an HbA1c blood test.

Good thing was that I got to test my meter accuracy against venous fbg the morning of the test, and meter readings were head on. Venous blood test showed 4.4 and so did my meter. So, I know my meter isn't reading low.
 
ziggy_w said:
Hello all.

Caved in and turned on the heater today. It has definitely gotten colder these last few days, though things are forecasted to improve a bit towards the end of week. Also seem to have caught a slight cold, not feeling too bad, however.

Got my results yesterday and they are generally good, though the HbA1c is a bit higher than expected and up from 30 to 36 from last year, though average readings have increased by only 0.1 mmol. As you all know an HbA1c of 36 reflects average blood sugars of 6.0, even I rarely ever get up as high as 6.0, even considering peaks after eating. GP thinks this is probably due to highs during sleep. Not sure I buy into this reasoning, but will probably need to get CGM to know for sure. However, don't want to complain as results are still in the non-diabetic range.

Results also showed no problems with kidneys and cholesterol is good. Calculated the Triglyceride-Glucose-Index (an approximation of insulin resistance when there's no insulin test) and this was for the first time in the insulin-sensitive range.

Blood sugars this morning were 5.4 this morning.

Have a great week all.
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Great news re all your results Ziggy, strange that your HbA1c should be higher than your recorded peaks though. At least it is still well inside the non diabetic range and that’s the main thing.
Relief about the kidneys too, given your recent ketones posts

I hadn’t heard of the Trigs/ glucose index to evaluate insulin resistance - how is it calculated, do you know?

Its fantastic that you are no longer classed as insulin resistant though - that really is brilliant, well done.
 
DJC3 said:
Great news re all your results Ziggy, strange that your HbA1c should be higher than your recorded peaks though. At least it is still well inside the non diabetic range and that’s the main thing.
Relief about the kidneys too, given your recent ketones posts

I hadn’t heard of the Trigs/ glucose index to evaluate insulin resistance - how is it calculated, do you know?

Its fantastic that you are no longer classed as insulin resistant though - that really is brilliant, well done.
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Thanks, @DJC3, for your kind words.

The triglyceride-glucose can approximate insulin resistance when you don't have insulin measurements. I guess this is the case for the vast majority of us since an insulin test usually isn't done.

This is a link to Ted Naiman's website with the triglyceride-glucose calculator -- you just need your fasting blood sugars and your fasting triglicerides from the test. http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/TyGIndexCalculator.html.

Just noticed that you need these values in mg/dl since this is a U.S. website. So, here's also a link to a cholesterol converter: http://www.onlineconversion.com/cholesterol.htm and a link to a glucose converter: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-converter.html.

Nothing official of course, but helpful to know.
 
ziggy_w said:
Thanks, @DJC3, for your kind words.

The triglyceride-glucose can approximate insulin resistance when you don't have insulin measurements. I guess this is the case for the vast majority of us since an insulin test usually isn't done.

This is a link to Ted Naiman's website with the triglyceride-glucose calculator -- you just need your fasting blood sugars and your fasting triglicerides from the test. http://www.burnfatnotsugar.com/TyGIndexCalculator.html.

Just noticed that you need these values in mg/dl since this is a U.S. website. So, here's also a link to a cholesterol converter: http://www.onlineconversion.com/cholesterol.htm and a link to a glucose converter: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-converter.html.

Nothing official of course, but helpful to know.
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Thanks for the links to the converters @ziggy_w. I used them and was @4.36 which according to the tool is normal - so I don't trust it one bit but it was fun. Also of note that it worsened between December 17 and June 18 when I tried keto and fasting.
 
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ianpspurs said:
Thanks for the links to the converters @ziggy_w. I used them and was @4.36 which according to the tool is normal - so I don't trust it one bit but it was fun. Also of note that it worsened between December 17 and June 18 when I tried keto and fasting.
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Great result, @ianpspurs. My results were pretty similar. Last year, I was slightly insulin resistant (due to higher trigs), but nothing compared to my numbers at diagnosis.

Btw, I believe the calculator isn't too bad. There are quite a number of scientific articles talking about the triglyceride-glucose index -- still actually measuring insulin would probably be better.
 
rhubarb73 said:
8.2 this morning. Only ate one meal yesterday. Still fighting tooth infection. One side of my face has developed a retro 2017 look by swelling back to its original size. Pain under control. Back at dentist today to see if they can drain it.
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Take care @rhubarb73 - sounds very painful.
 
ziggy_w said:
Great result, @ianpspurs. My results were pretty similar. Last year, I was slightly insulin resistant (due to higher trigs), but nothing compared to my numbers at diagnosis.

Btw, I believe the calculator isn't too bad. There are quite a number of scientific articles talking about the triglyceride-glucose index -- still actually measuring insulin would probably be better.
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The fasting and keto had lowered my body weight and a1c by .1 but screwed my trigs to worst for 3 years hence worse outcome. Actually, I used hba1bc not fasting bg so overall would have been lower if that is right.
 
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ziggy_w said:
Hello all.

Caved in and turned on the heater today. It has definitely gotten colder these last few days, though things are forecasted to improve a bit towards the end of week. Also seem to have caught a slight cold, not feeling too bad, however.

Got my results yesterday and they are generally good, though the HbA1c is a bit higher than expected and up from 30 to 36 from last year, though average readings have increased by only 0.1 mmol. As you all know an HbA1c of 36 reflects average blood sugars of 6.0, even I rarely ever get up as high as 6.0, even considering peaks after eating. GP thinks this is probably due to highs during sleep. Not sure I buy into this reasoning, but will probably need to get CGM to know for sure. However, don't want to complain as results are still in the non-diabetic range.

Results also showed no problems with kidneys and cholesterol is good. Calculated the Triglyceride-Glucose-Index (an approximation of insulin resistance when there's no insulin test) and this was for the first time in the insulin-sensitive range.

Blood sugars this morning were 5.4 this morning.

Have a great week all.
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Thanks for sharing your results @ziggy_w sounds like you’re taking a pragmatic view despite the disappointment of not being exactly where you want to be. To be honest I think the insulin result is brilliant and probably more significant for long-term management. There seems to be such a wide margin for error with both finger pricks and HbA1c that general trends are the reality of what we have to work with.
 
ianpspurs said:
Thanks for the links to the converters @ziggy_w. I used them and was @4.36 which according to the tool is normal - so I don't trust it one bit but it was fun. Also of note that it worsened between December 17 and June 18 when I tried keto and fasting.
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Snap! 4.36 too. Thanks @ziggy_w for the link.
 
ianpspurs said:
The fasting and keto had lowered my body weight and a1c by .1 but screwed my trigs to worst for 3 years hence worse outcome. Actually, In used hba1bc not fasting bg so overall would have been lower if that is right.
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Yes, it should be fasting blood sugars measured at the same time as trigs. Surprised that keto caused results to deteriorate. Just curious -- how much did your trigs increase by doing keto?
 
ziggy_w said:
Yes, it should be fasting blood sugars measured at the same time as trigs. Surprised that keto caused results to deteriorate. Just curious -- how much did your trigs increase by doing keto?
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Huge spike, doubled from .6 to 1.2 I don't like that one bit. Could well be the fasting from what I have read
 
Goonergal said:
Thanks for sharing your results @ziggy_w sounds like you’re taking a pragmatic view despite the disappointment of not being exactly where you want to be. To be honest I think the insulin result is brilliant and probably more significant for long-term management. There seems to be such a wide margin for error with both finger pricks and HbA1c that general trends are the reality of what we have to work with.
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Thanks @Goonergal for your supportive comments. I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed -- but in the end decided to go with my finger prick tests rather than HbA1c results -- especially since lab test and finger prick test for fasting blood sugars turned out to be exactly the same. So, there is really no reason to disbelieve my meter and to think that control is deteriorating.

Btw, wonderful results for the triglyceride-glucose test. Fbg for me were 80 (4.4 mmol) and trigs were 75 (0.85 mmol) leading to a result of 4.35. So almost the same as yours and @ianpspurs.
 
ianpspurs said:
Huge spike, doubled from .6 to 1.2 I don't like that one bit. Could well be the fasting from what I have read
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Wow, this is a noticeable rise. For me, last year's trigs were 1.1, now down to .85 -- I am attributing the higher trigs last year to overdoing the exercise. So, fasting might be a reasonable explanation also. Good that you found a way, which works better for you.
 
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