Advice needed on diets

[John-H]

Hello all,

I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes exactly a month ago, my Haemoglobin was 88 which apparently is very high and blood sugar 5.8. I've started the Cambridge Diet and lost a stone and a half in weight, I need some advice should I stick to the Cambridge diet where I am 2.5 stone away from required weight, or switch to diabetes friendly foods?

Thanks in advance

 

[bulkbiker]

Hello all,

I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes exactly a month ago, my Haemoglobin was 88 which apparently is very high and blood sugar 5.8. I've started the Cambridge Diet and lost a stone and a half in weight, I need some advice should I stick to the Cambridge diet where I am 2.5 stone away from required weight, or switch to diabetes friendly foods?

Thanks in advance

What were you going to transition to post Cambridge diet?

 

[John-H]

Yes that was my plan loose the weight then transition onto a healthier diet. or should I go straight to the healthier diet?

 

[bulkbiker]

Yes that was my plan loose the weight then transition onto a healthier diet. or should I go straight to the healthier diet?

That would depend entirely on what you think the "healthier diet" would be.

 

[Rachox]

When I was first diagnosed with type 2, I went straight onto a low carb diet. I got my bloods back to non diabetic levels in 4 months and lost five stone in 8 months. I then went on to lose a further stone over the following year. I didn’t once count calories and wasn’t hungry either!

 

[John-H]

Thanks for the responses did you follow a low carb diet plan?

 

[JoKalsbeek]

Thanks for the responses did you follow a low carb diet plan?

No specific plan used here, just learned to count carbs, checked blood sugar levels often and at the right times, and went from there. https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/blog-entry/the-nutritional-thingy.2330/ might help with the upcoming grocery run and with how to test, and dietdoctor.com and Dr. Jason Fung's book The Diabetes Code will too.

It's easy once you know how, I promise!
Jo

 

[Rachox]

Thanks for the responses did you follow a low carb diet plan?

Same as @JoKalsbeek , I just learnt carb content of different foods by reading food labels and supermarket website nutritional info. A good website to look at is to start off with if you want tips and recipes is https://www.dietdoctor.com/

 

[Daibell]

Hi. A low carb diet gives you both weight control/reduction and blood sugar control. Just do this from the start and don't worry about any diet plans

 

[ianf0ster]

Personally I don't like people talking about a Low Carb 'diet'. Most of us adopt a Low Carb 'Way Of Eating' - this isn't a 'diet' since we neither count calories nor are we hungrier than before!

A Low Carb (Higher fat) way of eating reduces Blood Glucose, Weight and Blood Pressure (if any of those are high) in around 50% of those who try it.

 

[walk39isl]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

 

[TeddyTottie]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

Well... this may be true for some people, but I chose a low carb (de facto keto) diet to control my blood sugar and lose weight. I never found that it made me tired although I did have a headache for a week as I adapted, but since then I have felt great!

My meals are varied and satisfying, and totally without linguine (or any other pasta)

 

[ianf0ster]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

I very much doubt that most people choose 'the Low Carb diet' due to gut blockages. I know many low carbers and none of them had gut blockages!

I also disagree about low carb causing tiredness. It didn't for me, though I eased into it for 2 weeks until I got my BG meter - after which I ate to the meter and so cut many foods I'd previously thought were OK. Once 'fat adapted' I found I had much more energy and much sharper thinking than before - note that I notice such things as I do some financial trading for which I attend long webinars etc.

Taking electrolyte tablets (or even just additional 'Lo Salt' in my case fixed all the usual 'Keto Flu' symptoms in my case.

 

[Robbity]

@John-H: Not being aware of any alternative options I went straight to eating LCHF. Like others I don't follow and specific diet plan - initially I simply cut right down on all the obvious high carb foods, and thereafter refined my food choices depending on what I enjoyed eating and had little or no adverse effects on glucose levels. Calorie counting never got a look in!

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

I can only think you must have come across some rather strange people...
I've had no such issues with low carb, and since as a diabetic I'm carbohydrate intolerant IMO it's a logical choice to limit the number of carbs I eat, but I certainly eat a far more varied diet than just frozen chicken & broccoli! Low carb has not only improved my glucose levels, it's also got rid of my chronic migraines, and put an end to more or less permanent tiredness and long term brain fog.

 

[Tophat1900]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

Where on earth did you get that from?

Frozen chicken sounds a bit tough, a bit hard to cut through and chew.

 

[JoKalsbeek]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

Uh, dowhatnow?

I'm eating steak, bacon, eggs, hard goat's cheeses (cow milk intolerant, sadly), and before I went carnivore to address other health issues, I was fine with my salads, veggies etc as well.. I don't inject insulin, never have, not on gliptin either... I went for low carb because it was the best way to get blood sugar control and significantly reduce, if not entirely eliminate, the chances of complications, besides getting me off metformin.

 

[Member496333]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

Cobblers.

 

[Jaylee]

The low carb diet generally just makes oyou tired after two weeks with bad breath if just eat eg frozen chicken and broccoli and no linguine. People choose the low carb diet due to gut blockages (aka poo balls!!) caused by the small amount of clozapine in gliptin and injectable insulin.

Hi @walk39isl ,

To avoid further derailment regarding everyone focusing on a challenge to your statement.

Please supply a reliable link to the information source?

 

[walk39isl]

It is actually just personal experience of cooking chicken and broccoli only for two weeks with no linguine - I forgot to buy from that nice Jewish store Tescos. The gut blockages are caused by rice and hard boiled eggs I find. The clozapine in insulin or gliptin in small dosages and causing gut blockages (poo balls) is well known in the diabetic community and I used to live next door to a renal team staff member and their Cmht relatives who found the same thing despite moving from gp to gp to avoid clozapine in the injectable insulin. I am not a middle class barrister like my gp surgeon renal team social worker brother so I cannot pull up sites and paperwork to put on here. I have actually been told off for my posts today. I speak as a long term diabetic.

 

[Resurgam]

It is actually just personal experience of cooking chicken and broccoli only for two weeks with no linguine - I forgot to buy from that nice Jewish store Tescos. The gut blockages are caused by rice and hard boiled eggs I find. The clozapine in insulin or gliptin in small dosages and causing gut blockages (poo balls) is well known in the diabetic community and I used to live next door to a renal team staff member and their Cmht relatives who found the same thing despite moving from gp to gp to avoid clozapine in the injectable insulin. I am not a middle class barrister like my gp surgeon renal team social worker brother so I cannot pull up sites and paperwork to put on here. I have actually been told off for my posts today. I speak as a long term diabetic.

Sorry - but you come across as someone with rather odd ideas.
Type two diabetics don't usually eat much rice, nor if they are the ordinary sort, use insulin, nor is it usual to have a menu which consists of just two items.