Because you can't jut substitute the QA insulin she was carrying for the Lantus she needed?If the police took you insulin off you upon arrest, why did they need to drive to your house to get it
s10vsb said:I have 'War wounds' too!! I've taken photos of my bruises. My GP and A and E saw them and made notes....I also pulled muscles in my voice box through screaming and as a waitress you have to call tables away and shout across the kitchen. My GP told me that after a week without my voice, if I didn't have my voice back within the next wk, I'd have to have a sick note!!!! A proper black and blue bruise on the base of my spine due to being hand cuffed behind my back...why? I wasn't aggressive or abusive. The Sergeant confirmed that was unnecessary. I had big bruises on my thigh and knee and a cut on my knee due to 'Falling' out of the back of the police van. If you had high heels on, a fitted dress and your hands strapped behind your back would you have been able to get out of the van? Bear in mind, there were 3 police officers that took me to the station who obviously didn't help!!! No, I'm not over weight, my BMI is 24.Elc1112 said:I had similar problems when I started on Levemir - my sugars would rise/fall a lot during the day and I just couldn't get the balance right. I started splitting the dose, based on advice from my GP, and it has been much better since.
It must be a pain if you don't recognise high blood sugars. Not sure if there is anything that you can do to improve this but I do know that hypo awareness is more likely to return as you stop having so many hypos - wondering whether it's the same for high readings? Anybody know?
Anyway, I lived in Durham for a few years when I was in my early 20s. I seem to remember them having a pretty low tolerance towards anybody who was a little worse for wear. With regards to your experience, it might be worth highlighting the fact that you were worried about what would have happened if your sugars dropped while you were in the cell. Not sure if it will make much of a difference but at least you'll feel like you have done something to stop others being in the same situation. As for taking it to the press, I'm not sure they'd be too interested if I am completely honest. Don't take this the wrong way, but it would be more exciting to a newspaper if you did hypo and if treatment was withheld and, as a result, you ended up in hospital. It's the drama/scandal that sells papers!
I'm sure that most people on this forum have done or said something stupid when they've been drunk in the past. I know I have! You were unlucky in that you got arrested and it's a tough lesson to learn but at least you've come away from it without any war wounds. Learn from it and move on. That's all you can do
Em
s10vsb said:No, I'm 'someone' who's type 1 and come to a web site for diabetics for some advise on how to get the law changed so the police have to test diabetics b4 arrest so they don't to waste time and money that could be better spent and not put anyone through what I had to go through.Embabe25 said:Someone who wanted attention and probably doesn't have diabetes. Maybe knows someone who has so knows the terminology.
Em x
s10vsb said:I also pulled muscles in my voice box through screaming and as a waitress you have to call tables away and shout across the kitchen. My GP told me that after a week without my voice, if I didn't have my voice back within the next wk, I'd have to have a sick note!!!!
AMBrennan said:Because you can't jut substitute the QA insulin she was carrying for the Lantus she needed?If the police took you insulin off you upon arrest, why did they need to drive to your house to get it
JConnor said:I've been watching this post for a while and have read all the comments.
Inlay circumstances I have fu respect for the work the police do which can't be easy BUT few years ago my best friends brother was arrested after an ambulance called the police to gain access to his flat, the police arrested him on an outstanding warrant instead. Kept telling him to stop 'acting drunk' took him to station and Sargent ordered him to be taken to a&e straight away, instead thinking they knew better and he was acting they called at another station to pick something up, he collapsed in the police car and an hour later died of DKA. He was undiagnosed diabetic but diagnosed epileptic who had a seizure hence ambulance. The police DO fail to follow guidelines and even fail to follow seniors orders!!!
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You've completely ignored the post on the previous page from someone who works for the justice system and knows procedure!
Police did not follow procedure, thus a complaint is warranted.As part of a custody sergeants risk assessment, they ALWAYS check if a person has any health issues, such as diabetes, and that then dictates the level of care given. EVERY time a diabetic is in custody, the first thing sergeants do is ask the nurse to check BS levels and make sure the person is fit to be detained
Which changes nothing about the fact that police didn't follow procedure.If you had remained calm you would have been checked but you weren't!
They will find that BS was not checked "first thing" in violation of procedure.They will check back the CCTV footage and see if you were treated excessively!
A police officer's job requires taking personal risks to ensure the safety of other people - both by confronting armed criminals and by making sure "nutters" don't harm themselves and are fit to be detained. If you don't want to do that then police officer is not the right job for you.You admit you were screaming and kicking like a mad woman! Would you go into a cell with a nutter to test their blood! I bloody wouldn't that's for sure!
That is immaterial - question is whether a) police followed procedure AND b) if police procedures are adequate to guarantee the safety. OP has a case if either of them is false.You were in the wrong!
That is immaterial - do you want to wait with educating the officers in question about correct procedure until someone actually dies in their custody as a result of them not following procedure?You were never in danger!
Ah yes, because there she could have been treated worse it follows that police not following procedure is totally fine.If it had been another country where the police have more powers you might not have been treated so well
I routinely plan on getting arrested and carry several days worth of medication just in case.Oh yeah!!! That makes total sense now! I stand corrected, she left the insulin she needed at home when going out on the LASH
AMBrennan said:You've completely ignored the post on the previous page from someone who works for the justice system and knows procedure!Police did not follow procedure, thus a complaint is warranted.As part of a custody sergeants risk assessment, they ALWAYS check if a person has any health issues, such as diabetes, and that then dictates the level of care given. EVERY time a diabetic is in custody, the first thing sergeants do is ask the nurse to check BS levels and make sure the person is fit to be detained
Which changes nothing about the fact that police didn't follow procedure.If you had remained calm you would have been checked but you weren't!
They will find that BS was not checked "first thing" in violation of procedure.They will check back the CCTV footage and see if you were treated excessively!
A police officer's job requires taking personal risks to ensure the safety of other people - both by confronting armed criminals and by making sure "nutters" don't harm themselves and are fit to be detained. If you don't want to do that then police officer is not the right job for you.You admit you were screaming and kicking like a mad woman! Would you go into a cell with a nutter to test their blood! I bloody wouldn't that's for sure!
That is immaterial - question is whether a) police followed procedure AND b) if police procedures are adequate to guarantee the safety. OP has a case if either of them is false.You were in the wrong!
That is immaterial - do you want to wait with educating the officers in question about correct procedure until someone actually dies in their custody as a result of them not following procedure?You were never in danger!
Ah yes, because there she could have been treated worse it follows that police not following procedure is totally fine.If it had been another country where the police have more powers you might not have been treated so well
Mr Happy said:I love it that people operate outside of the law, behave like an imbecile and then start looking for procedural issues.
Grow up!
Read ALL of the posts then comment...I presume you haven't.....If you think you have then read them again.
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Close - mathematician.Your not a lawyer by any chance are you?
I don't dispute that, and I never said that her behavior was helpful or acceptable or that she should not have been arrested, and she will get an appropriate punishment as decided by the courts.Her attitude was the problem! And it's attitudes like hers that make things all the more difficult for those who actually are in need of assistance!
AMBrennan said:Close - mathematician.Your not a lawyer by any chance are you?
I don't dispute that, and I never said that her behavior was helpful or acceptable or that she should not have been arrested, and she will get an appropriate punishment as decided by the courts.Her attitude was the problem! And it's attitudes like hers that make things all the more difficult for those who actually are in need of assistance!
However, that does not excuse the police not following procedure when dealing with her - those two issues are completely independent.
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