Best fat burning diet for type 2

Type Alan

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So, I currently do cardio workout at the gym (air bike, stairs and treadmill) that is apparently supposed to burn fat and it is working but only slowly.

I was at 127kg and now I am 110kg and it took me 6 months.

Which diet would help speed this process up?
 

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Can't say for sure what would work for you, but here's what worked for me. Starting weight in December 2020 was somewhere north of 120kg - don't know for sure because my scales topped out at 118kg.

What I did was to compketely cut out all the high-carb items that had been in my diet. That meant no potatoes, pasta, rice, bread, fruit, pastry, anything sugary, beer, and just about everything that came out of a jar or packet - all the "convenience" stuff. I was aiming for no more that a total of 20g carbs/day. This of course meant ignoring all the standard "eat starchy carbs" and "eat low fat" advice still pushed out by the health service and the media.

Instead I switched to a meat and dairy diet with green veg. The 20g carbs each day came mainly from the veg. I was in ketosis pretty quickly and have stayed there for almost all the last five years. I backed this up with a BG fingerprick testing regime and recorded what I ate and what my BG values were. Blood glucose was back to normal in the four months between December 2019 and April 2020.

Weight loss followed, and is in my signature block below. It's around 40kg in total. As well as that I've dropped from 42 inch waist to 32 in the same time - I've gone from just about getting into 34 inch jeans in summer 2023 to them being loose this summer past.

Once I lost enough bulk, I started football and exercising again in 2022 which is a bit surprising for me at my age, but I'm really enjoying it and building some new muscle. While I'm still losing fat (eg waist size continues to shrink), my weight loss has stopped probably because of the additional muscle. I'm OK with that, and am probably where I want to be long-term - not interested in being skinny.

Some willpower is needed. You have to want to do it more than you want the carbs. Things were a bit simpler for me for motivation because I had a range of unpleasant diabetic symptoms that I am very glad to see the back of - they went very quickly with lowered BG. I wasn't primarily interested in weight loss, that just followed on as a welcome bonus.


Best of luck. If you have a look at the "Success Stories" section of the foum, you'll see lots of examples of people who've turned their lives around. The forum is a great resource and source of support. We've all been through it, or are going through it.
 
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Hi @Type Alan - just switched from your other thread, so this is something of a continuation.

Just to break down your question (to start with, I totally agree with everything above in @KennyA s reply) - what diet is good for fat burning? there are a couple of resources I could point you at if you were interested, but the central point of your question revolves around - what is it in our metabolic system that controls whether we store or burn fat? - and the answer is, of course - insulin.

If your insulin is high, you store fat - if it's low, you burn fat.
The kicker is that - as T2DM, we are already in a state where our insulin levels are too high too often - that's really what insulin resistance is.

Any exercise you do is a good thing in itself, but there is a good line of thought that cardio (being by definition an elevated heart rate) doesn't play as much of a role in burning fat as we may like to think - and that you would be better off doing resistance or high impact.. (Skeletal muscles work differently to heart muscle and actually store fat, so you want to do exercise that uses that fat - speeding up the heart doesn't do that by itself) but for me, I think that's all secondary, and all irrelevant if insulin is high.

Do whatever exercise makes you feel good doing it - we all have our preferences; but prioritise lowering insulin, because then you will be more likely to burning fat all the time.

How do you do that? live in a way that reduces the need for elevated insulin - eat foods that produce low insulin response (protein and fat together, as much as possible, reduce sugars and starches) and leave you feeling full so that you have longer periods of not eating. Get better sleep (sleep deprivation is much more important to this than is widely recognised) - and do whatever makes sense to you to reduce stress (and not to trivialise; treat it as something you just need to put your will to, like the treadmill, there are things you can do, exercise being one of them of course).

I did the "limit calories and do more cardio exercise" thing - for 3 hard years, it was a constant struggle, but I did lose 20kg over those 3 years... and was then diagnosed as diabetic.
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I've removed the scale, because it's only relevant to me, but this is a long time, with some plateaus and bounce backs... and you can see the timeline. This was a grinding, consistent effort of weighing each ingredient, scanning every meal, feeling hungry all the time...
I gained it all back during a period of taking insulin, but when I was re-diagnosed as Type 2 and took everything I've just written above seriously, this happend:
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This is the same scale - and the same overall loss - but it's like my body just dropped to ideal weight and stayed there.
Clearly - I just cannot say anything other than this happened to me - but the one thing I've focused on is insulin - I don't do more excercise, I don't measure anything (food based, clearly, I take measurements daily) and I eat till I'm full. The early period, I was fasting every other day, so some may consider that extreme - I considered it necessary to reverse insulin resistance.

But generally, now, I just ask - will this raise insulin?
If yes, I don't eat it.

For anyone looking at the lower graph, and thinking - yes but it looks like you are starting to creep up again - that's muscle gain. - if I plot just fat loss (again, redacting the amount):
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You can see that the drop - over the same period, is even steeper and flatter after the drop. All the spikes in the graph are fasting days.
 

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So, I currently do cardio workout at the gym (air bike, stairs and treadmill) that is apparently supposed to burn fat and it is working but only slowly.

I was at 127kg and now I am 110kg and it took me 6 months.

Which diet would help speed this process up?
Personally, a low carb diet and long walks work for me. Well, used to, before menopause hit. Now I mainly settle for good blood glucose levels, the added blubber's just a matter of "oh well". But I'm "just" obese now, not morbidly obese, and I never ever hope to be that again, either.

So, yeah, another vote for low carb eating here... I hope it'll help, if you want to give it a go.
 
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Cut out the top two thirds of that pyramid, ... yep that just about does it.

I go with Ben Bikman's philosophy
1 - Control Carbs
2 - Prioritise Protein
3 - don' Fear Fat

That leaves plenty of room to figure out what works for you.
But any diagram that has an avocado next to a banana, like they are the same thing... and then has an entire slice of starches listed as "complex carbs" - yeah, I'm out.