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i was wondering because i get it really bad? i go to sleep in range & wake up 350!
do ALL diabetics get dawn phenomenon?
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Hi @jrose444 and welcome to the forums.
We are all different so I very much doubt "all" but I certainly do/did. Mine is reduced immensely since getting an insulin pump which increases my dose before I wake.
Can I ask what sort of insulin regime you are on? Do you have a cgm so you can see how it rises overnight? (There might be things you can do such as increasing your night time basal, if any? ).
350mg/dL translates to 19.5mmol/L so I would hope that your diabetic team have made some suggestions as to how you can reduce this?
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We are all different so I very much doubt "all" but I certainly do/did. Mine is reduced immensely since getting an insulin pump which increases my dose before I wake.
Can I ask what sort of insulin regime you are on? Do you have a cgm so you can see how it rises overnight? (There might be things you can do such as increasing your night time basal, if any? ).
350mg/dL translates to 19.5mmol/L so I would hope that your diabetic team have made some suggestions as to how you can reduce this?
Once more, welcome
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Hi @jrose444
No not all t1d's get it and it can come and go, i've had it in the past but don't get it now so we are all different, I second Ellie's advice about speaking to your Diabetes team to get advice, if you have a pump you can adjust your basal profile to combat DP, also I have found when i've had it that if I eat something low carb as soon as I am up and about and take a correction that I can stop the spike. I also avoid carbs in the morning too as more insulin resistant then so can fight a high reading till lunchtime otherwise.
No not all t1d's get it and it can come and go, i've had it in the past but don't get it now so we are all different, I second Ellie's advice about speaking to your Diabetes team to get advice, if you have a pump you can adjust your basal profile to combat DP, also I have found when i've had it that if I eat something low carb as soon as I am up and about and take a correction that I can stop the spike. I also avoid carbs in the morning too as more insulin resistant then so can fight a high reading till lunchtime otherwise.
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T2, and I get it in spades.
Also non-diabetic peple get it as well - we have a number of non-diabetics in our local low-carb group, many of who have tried a CGM and been surprised to see quite big changes in BG while asleep.
Also non-diabetic peple get it as well - we have a number of non-diabetics in our local low-carb group, many of who have tried a CGM and been surprised to see quite big changes in BG while asleep.
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I agree with @KennyA, your circadian rhythm system gears up your system for daytime activity. It is the same for diabetics and non diabetics. Mine has varied from 5.8 mmol/Ls to as high as 9 mmol/ls. This morning at 5am I was at 6.
I think we are all different - some get it and some don't.
I definitely do (and have had all my life - I think) - did lots of work with my Basal rates when pumping without a loop.
My loop now handles it automatically so I don't know its there now though.
I definitely do (and have had all my life - I think) - did lots of work with my Basal rates when pumping without a loop.
My loop now handles it automatically so I don't know its there now though.
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I have done but less so now, insulin pump & being retired helps, I was working in a pressured environment.
I am often a bit insulin resistant in the mornings, my routine is bolus then wait for BG to dip before eating. Sometimes its an hour so difficult when on a schedule.
I am often a bit insulin resistant in the mornings, my routine is bolus then wait for BG to dip before eating. Sometimes its an hour so difficult when on a schedule.
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I think we all get a rise in the morning, it's the body preparing to wake up and for the day ahead
I think it's more a case of how much each individual rises and how the body deals with it
A non diabetic body would get the extra release of glucose but the body would instantly break it down into the needed energy so you not really notice a rise
I notice any rise I get is also dependant and how well I eat the day before
I don't normally get dawn phenomenon.
The way my Basal insulin is set up, I tend to drop overnight slightly.
This means I can have a biscuit supper most nights before bed, and still be well in range when I get up in the morning.
We're all different, or all weird in our own individual way, diabetic and non-diabetic alike.
The way my Basal insulin is set up, I tend to drop overnight slightly.
This means I can have a biscuit supper most nights before bed, and still be well in range when I get up in the morning.
We're all different, or all weird in our own individual way, diabetic and non-diabetic alike.
