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LCHF and Keto diets are fads, Official!

Rustytypin

Rustytypin

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I receive an email from Patient Access, (used by my GP) on a regular basis. This is fronted by Dr Sarah Jarvis MBE and usually has reminders like "get your Flu jab". The latest one has the warning "Why fad diets can actually lead to weight gain"
This is the link : https://patient.info/news-and-featu...d-to-weight-gain&dm_i=4Q86,8L9Q,22I6R2,WAMS,1

I have no doubt that all of you will immediately follow this good advice and give up your LCHF and Keto diets because the Doctor (as seen and heard on the TV and radio, so she must be believed) has spoken.

I will await all of your apologies for following such bad diets and I am sure you will return to a healthy way of eating, i.e. the Eatwell plate and INCREASE your carbs and DECREASE you fat intake. You know it makes sense!
 
I will NOT be giving up the low carb way of eating, it works for me.
I am concerned thought, it is becoming more talked about, but there is a lot of missinformation.
Recipes called keto or low carb and the only thing changed is swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners.
” Keto” convince bars that have seed oils and ingredients that are not recognize-able.
I am happy that it is become more main stream, but there is a lot of rubbish information and it is setting up people who truly want to change their health for the better up for failure.
This is not a diet for me, it is now my way of life.
 
I received it too, but binned it as soon as I reached where it included low carb and keto in the list of fad diets!
 
Methinks she needs to update her knowledge, because according to the criteria used in the article, the Newcastle Diet and the milk diet (used pre-bariatric surgery) are also fad diets. Yet they, and LC are now endorsed and available via the NHS.

actually, all indignant feather ruffling aside, I am personally STRONGLY against any form of weight loss that provides insufficient nutrition, even if that is only for a few weeks (or 8 weeks in some cases ;) ). My own voice of experience says that rapid weight loss via drastic and unsustainable methods just sets people up for future regain and deep misery as they think they have failed, wasted all that effort and are now in a worse situation than before. Yo-yo dieting is very unhealthy and can have long term health impact.

but then no one who embarks on one of these diets ever believes that they will be one of the (large majority) who end up regaining everything they lost, and more.

On the other hand, I am fully in favour of people making reasoned, steady, enjoyable and sustainable changes to their long term way of eating, provided it offers full nutrition. If weight loss is desired, and accompanies those changes, then even better.
 
Brunneria said:
On the other hand, I am fully in favour of people making reasoned, steady, enjoyable and sustainable changes to their long term way of eating, provided it offers full nutrition. If weight loss is desired, and accompanies those changes, then even better.
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Well said
 
Hotpepper20000 said:
I will NOT be giving up the low carb way of eating, it works for me.
I am concerned thought, it is becoming more talked about, but there is a lot of missinformation.
Recipes called keto or low carb and the only thing changed is swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners.
” Keto” convince bars that have seed oils and ingredients that are not recognize-able.
I am happy that it is become more main stream, but there is a lot of rubbish information and it is setting up people who truly want to change their health for the better up for failure.
This is not a diet for me, it is now my way of life.
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Totally. There seems to be an ever-growing trend for fake food labelled as keto. There is so much more to proper ketogenic eating than simply reducing carbohydrate. Most importantly, a key target is to exile seed oils, and we all know where the increased fat content of all this artificial junk will come from...
 
Rustytypin said:
I receive an email from Patient Access, (used by my GP) on a regular basis. This is fronted by Dr Sarah Jarvis MBE and usually has reminders like "get your Flu jab". The latest one has the warning "Why fad diets can actually lead to weight gain"
This is the link : https://patient.info/news-and-features/why-fad-diets-can-actually-lead-to-weight-gain?utm_source=PA_Newsletter&utm_campaign=400814_PA Newsletter 56th edition&utm_medium=email&utm_content=why-fad-diets-can-actually-lead-to-weight-gain&dm_i=4Q86,8L9Q,22I6R2,WAMS,1

I have no doubt that all of you will immediately follow this good advice and give up your LCHF and Keto diets because the Doctor (as seen and heard on the TV and radio, so she must be believed) has spoken.

I will await all of your apologies for following such bad diets and I am sure you will return to a healthy way of eating, i.e. the Eatwell plate and INCREASE your carbs and DECREASE you fat intake. You know it makes sense!
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How strange that the Ways Of Eating' that have been followed for thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of years are 'Fads'. How is that possible? Do 'Fads' last for hundreds of human generations?
Yet the modern ones SAD, Food Pyramid, Eatwell Plate, 5 A Day which have only been around for 40yrs (during which time CVD, Diabetes and Obesity have rocketed) is somehow not considered a fad.

Surely the writer can't be biased - can they?
 
Interesting no mention of veganism as a fad diet? But then again the memorandum of understanding between the BDA and the Vegan Society probably precludes such a thing..

So wonderful that carnivore wasn't included as a fad so I guess we can all stay happy that eating what mankind evolved eating over millions of years is fine... phew!
 
I must admit that I am biased against these 8 week or so 'Low Calorie diets'.
But just because you can't maintain them indefinitely, they are not sustainable so the dieter is still left without help to navigate the most difficult part :
- Transitioning to something that is long-term sustainable (and enjoyable).

What is the point in putting yourself through pain for perhaps 8 weeks, to then put yourself through more pain in order to try to hang on to what you have gained (lost), when you could go straight to a minimal pain long-term sustainable Way Of Eating in the first place. And even at the 8 or 9 week mark you would hardly be much 'behind' those on the maximum pain diet!

I just don't understand it. I thought most people wanted the easiest way, but it seems that so far as eating is concerned the world is full of masochists!

By coincidence, here is a video on this subject:

 
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Ok, thanks doc!

I'll stop using a fad diet, that has improved my health, my life, and has given me a chance to live a long life!

You know best!

I'm going to the chippy for a chip buttie!
Been 'dying' to have one for over six years!

Good job my insurance is paid up!
 
Low carb has been criticized vilified and generally put down for several hundred years - William Banting had to publish his Letter on Corpulence himself (a bargain at three pence) then a hundred years later Dr Atkins was struggling to be taken seriously - but I think that eventually there will simply be too many people who can say 'it worked for me' for it to be ignored.
 
Jim Lahey said:
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Stolen from someone else just recently, but it deserves reposting here. I lost count of the number of times "fad" was shoehorned into that opinion piece.
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I need a laugh after reading that, officially I am now a fad dieter ... As a diet to lose weight, even at my average current daily carb intake of 30gms, I have only managed to lose 2lbs in weight since I started this 'fad' diet.
Depriving myself daily of chips, crisps, mash, roasties, jackets, pizza, pasta, rice, bread, sugar filled sauces and ready meals.
Thank God I go back to eating all the above real food again. Mmmmm Yummy yum yum.
Spotted Richard, jam roly-poly, ginger pud, choccie biscuits BRING IT ON

Said skinny starved poor old Po
 
Just one thing missing from the cartoon, Jim, the blinkers.
 
ianf0ster said:
I must admit that I am biased against these 8 week or so 'Low Calorie diets'.
But just because you can't maintain them indefinitely, they are not sustainable so the dieter is still left without help to navigate the most difficult part :
- Transitioning to something that is long-term sustainable (and enjoyable).

What is the point in putting yourself through pain for perhaps 8 weeks, to then put yourself through more pain in order to try to hang on to what you have gained (lost), when you could go straight to a minimal pain long-term sustainable Way Of Eating in the first place. And even at the 8 or 9 week mark you would hardly be much 'behind' those on the maximum pain diet!

I just don't understand it. I thought most people wanted the easiest way, but it seems that so far as eating is concerned the world is full of masochists!

By coincidence, here is a video on this subject:
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Winner of the thread award .
Could NOT agree more.
 
What I find strange is that back when I was following 800-1000 calorie diets they were dismissed as harmful, fad diets. Years later having lost weight many times only to regain the amount lost and more besides, I concur with this view. So I really don't understand why this sort of diet is now being upheld as a healthy way to lose weight. It really isn't.
 
The comments on a number of the Blogs seem to focus on Weight Loss. While I appreciate the need to loose weight my understanding is that a low carb diet reduces the sugar intake and helps my body to cope with the need to process and control my insulin levels.
There are obviously skinny people with diabetes and many overweight people who do not suffer from it
 
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