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Massive increase in blood sugar after breakfast

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by PEG 2, Mar 31, 2018.

  1. Hughie 2

    Hughie 2 Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you for your feedback, bulkbiker. There is contradictory advice out there, but most people seem to adopt a "find what works for you" approach, which is fair enough.
     
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  2. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    Of course you are confused. Most of us were when first diagnosed, but it gets better the more we learn.

    If you do your research you will find that current experts in the field are telling us that avoiding dairy and saturated fats is wrong.
    The evidence on low fat is good, saturated fat is bad has been shown to be false. It is just taking the NHS and national dietary associations a while to catch up. These are just 3 websites. There are many more.

    http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285

    https://www.dietdoctor.com/saturated-fat-bad

    http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2018/04/carbohydrates-cardiovascular-disease/
     
  3. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have a boatload of hereditary issues. Some will kill me early, some just mean pain. All. The. Time. So yeah, I know the feeling. I did get both my bloodsugar and my cholesterol under control with lchf, but my thyroid's being a b****, so I've been gaining weight. Which means I'm going to try Keto next! 20 grams of carbs a day, max... While I can't use any dairy products. So that's going to be a puzzle! Still, better that than not giving it a shot. There's plenty of options out there. Diets, medication... This is what's working for me. (HbA1c a nice non-diabetic 38 and dropping, cholesterol these days perfectly fine. I just hate that I'm gaining weight again. In spite of all the rabbitfood.). Doesn't mean it's what'll work for you. There are options out there... Just find whatever floats your boat. I desperately wanted to avoid insulin, the pills made me ill and ache... I didn't have any other viable choice than change my diet. Find what works for YOU.
     
  4. lindisfel

    lindisfel · Well-Known Member

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    You seem to have an unfortunate manner, Glitter? :).
    The people here are trying to give you the benefit of what works for them.
    There are not superior but have done their homework and have been guided in their approach by the results on their blood glucose meters.

    You can take the advice or leave it, your under no compulsion whatsoever!
    I happened to take their advice a few years ago and have benefitted from it.

    You and your family may be exceptional T2D's who can cope with insulin resistance and high blood glucose and live to be a hundred!

    Many of us wish we had your kind of genes and didn't have to fight this disease! :) ;)
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  5. stephenlopez

    stephenlopez Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well, if your blood sugar suddenly increased, it shows that you have to start caring for your condition even more. You have to look up your diet (including the breakfast) and make changes to it. You can about the diet changes from your doctor or a dietitian. All you need to do is focus on your health a bit more. Read this:

    Taking Care of Diabetes
     
  6. Sam50

    Sam50 Don't have diabetes · Well-Known Member

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    oooh rather like the sound of that 'pretend' porridge.....*goes off to jot down recipe* thank you x
     
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  7. Sam50

    Sam50 Don't have diabetes · Well-Known Member

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    www.dietdoctor.com check out this site in relation to cholesterol as it explains it very well. We have been conditioned to believe that 'fat' is bad when actually certain fats are very beneficial (even essential to health-especially brain health) Yes you are correct in that diabetes is a risk factor in CVD but only one factor, Cholesterol is mostly manufactured by the liver and not that influenced by what you are eating. It is not the 'bad' cholesterol which is harmful but the ratio between the good/bad/triglycerides which is important. Your overall cholesterol number is not as important as how it is broken down.

    A far bigger risk to CVD would be obesity, smoking and stress, get in control of those factors and cholesterol is less of a worry. Eggs are full of protein and very good for you. Saturated fats, cheeses, cream etc help with satiety which is important when low carbing so you don't feel hungry. It takes you a while to get your head around how you can eat these things and lose weight)when combined with low carbing)...have a read around on the forums.
     
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  8. millenium

    millenium Carer · Well-Known Member

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    U did not mention the amount you have taken. It may be helpful to weigh the amount and record down to help u decide how much to reduce or they need to be eliminated. The last time i saw a 14mmol reading from my father's blood was when he took something like 70g carb in a meal. After i adjusted it to 30g or below per meal, i mostly see 8.5 or below.
     
  9. stephenlopez

    stephenlopez Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    As everyone is talking about low carb diet here, yesterday I learned about keto diet plan. So, should I follow it? I have type-2 diabetes and it's been about 3 weeks since I was diagnosed with the condition.
     
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  10. rab5

    rab5 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I would say yes
     
  11. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    My HbA1c was 38 while on low carb high fat, which I heartily reccomend, but due to thyroid issues my weight was creeping up again, after losing 20 kilo's. So I've stepped up my game a little and am trying keto since a few days... So far, so good...! And my meter is showing even better numbers than before. Even the numbers in the morning are becoming lower, which I never managed properly before. Really looking forward to my next labs! So yeah, keto might be worth it. Just be aware you might feel ill for a few days (as your body switches what to burn, carbs or fat), and if you're on drugs, be careful not to hypo. Your meter is your best buddy!
     
  12. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    My thyroid doesn't work - but I was prescribed Thyroxine to compensate - have taken it for decades now, and that seems to fix it, no problem.
     
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  13. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    (My levothyroxine dosage was off... Now the bloodwork is finally good and I don't have any other symptoms, just weight gain which I can't quite explain. Then again, could be down to the contraceptive I use to control my migraines... Hadn't thought of that before!)
     
  14. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    That's my favoured way of eating.. if you can follow it then go for it.
     
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  15. tshirtmeister

    tshirtmeister · Member

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    Fast for 3 weeks and you will be cured! Check the diet doctor or search Dr Jason Fung! His Videos convinced me to fast and Im in full remission! Im so thankful I tried it. 21 days was a *****. Although it was way harder to quit smoking. Last Friday I had Ham, Eggs, large order of Hash Browns with toast! Two hrs after the meal 120mg/dl. Works. Most days I skip the carbs, but once a week I go out and am OK glucose wise. Fasting three weeks was the best thing I ever did, BP is 110/70, COPD is better and Diabetes is on the run. It was harder to quit smoking than fast.
     
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    #55 tshirtmeister, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:46 PM
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  16. stephenlopez

    stephenlopez Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  17. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    They list potatoes under foods to avoid. I doubt that you could get into ketosis eating potatoes.
     
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  18. xfieldok

    xfieldok Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Remember that keto is not diabetic specific, some recipes may contain foods you can not tolerate.
     
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  19. richardterry

    richardterry Type 2 · Newbie

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    I found the same. I changed to Almond and coconut milk mix and this helped.
     
  20. lowedb

    lowedb Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, though with so little milk I am sure the problem for me was the wheat.
     
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