I am not an expert as I have only been doing the PE diet since April. The way I understand it is that you prioritise protein and eat foods that contain a good proportion of protein together with the fat that naturally comes with them. So basically low carb with not quite so much fat.What are the differences between a low carb diet, keto diet, and the PE diet? I notice that someone mentions cutting down on cream when on the PE diet, is this essential? And is cheese, a valuable source of protein, allowed on the PE Diet? I don't see it mentioned in any of the postings.
A high protein diet can be argued as a high glucose diet
What are the differences between a low carb diet, keto diet, and the PE diet? I notice that someone mentions cutting down on cream when on the PE diet, is this essential? And is cheese, a valuable source of protein, allowed on the PE Diet? I don't see it mentioned in any of the postings.
I think that @Muzza explained it really well in his post. Especially when he wrote that 'PE Ratio Diet - The key focus is on grams of protein consumed with total grams of fat and carbs to be less than protein if wanting to lose weight, equal to protein if you want to maintain weight and greater than protein if you wish to gain weight. While not extreme low fat it is recommended that you keep fats within the ratio. It is low carb but not as restrictive as Keto as long as you keep within the PE ratio.' I really like it that this is really the only rule.Hi Muzza3 and Krystyna23040
Thank you so much for your informative and helpful replies.
I was diagnosed as being pre-diabetic a couple of years ago, then this year experienced chronic pain for about three months. When this passed I discovered my blood glucose levels had moved to the diabetic range. Prior to this I followed a low carb diet and found while it kept my blood glucose levels on a fairly even keel I did not lose weight. Hence my interest in the PE Diet.
I'm afraid macros, ratios, etc are beyond me, and would like some help understanding them and the PE Diet. My current weight is seventy four kilos (eleven stone seven pounds), and I would like to be ten stone (forgot to look up how many kilos). So the PE Diet recommends that I should be eating one gram of protein for each pound of my target weight, and then half this number for carbs and fat. Is this correct or am I hopelessly wrong?
However, when I envisage 140 grams of protein a day, it's not a lot for two meals. I'm sure I am currently eating more on my low carb diet. Half a portion of a rib eye steak could easily be 100 grams, so that only leaves 40 grams for the other meal. How much fish, cheese, eggs, can I get for 40 grams? And I assume that fats, cream, butter, oils, vegetables, salads, etc come out of the other allowed 70 grams.
I've looked on various PE websites, and I cannot find any explicit instructions for the diet. Perhaps it's a way of making people purchase the book. Some of the sites have graphs of what to eat, but I've found the print so miniscule I cannot read it, and when I click onto the graph to make it larger it doesn't work!
Krystyna23040: I love cream! And I've found in the past that cream in coffee has given me the ability to make it through from six in the evening to perhaps twelve the next day. But alas I'm not being very good with the fasting at the moment, and tending to pick in the evening.
Best wishes to you both, and once again many thanks.
I am so impressed that you can eat a 400g Ribeye steak.
My problem is that I just cannot eat a steak that large. Even an 8oz steak (227grams) is totally beyond me. A 10oz steak (283 grams) is even worse. Have never been able to eat huge meals and as I have got older it seems to be even harder. I am not sure if that can ever be resolved.400g is the legal minimum for a ribeye. Regarding macro ratios and the like, my mantra is now simply “eat animals when hungry.”
This is a very difficult question to answer due to the variables. Low carb for someone severely insulin resistant may need to be ketogenic levels.What are the differences between a low carb diet, keto diet, and the PE diet? I notice that someone mentions cutting down on cream when on the PE diet, is this essential? And is cheese, a valuable source of protein, allowed on the PE Diet? I don't see it mentioned in any of the postings.
Yes, I totally agree with your very informative post - especially your comment about the cream.Would one really expect great results with either too much cream in meals
In my view, our community has a super power. We are effectively hacking a stacked system. Tribes such as the Maasai have it technically easier I feel, as in a bad example they might only have 30 foods to choose from, we have 600,000 specifically designed to to hit the senses - you can eat a ... bar if it doesn't exist in your neighbourhood. It is like trying to navigate across a muddy pitch in a white suit without getting messy.Yes, I totally agree with your very informative post - especially your comment about the cream.
I was totally bonkers to think that I would get great results from too much cream. I think that I just didn't think about it at all. I just thought that it was such an easy way to get the energy I needed for a very active lifestyle. I must admit that I feel so much better now I have 'mended my ways'.
I'm afraid macros, ratios, etc are beyond me, and would like some help understanding them and the PE Diet. My current weight is seventy four kilos (eleven stone seven pounds), and I would like to be ten stone (forgot to look up how many kilos). So the PE Diet recommends that I should be eating one gram of protein for each pound of my target weight, and then half this number for carbs and fat. Is this correct or am I hopelessly wrong?
Half a portion of a rib eye steak could easily be 100 grams, so that only leaves 40 grams for the other meal.
I've looked on various PE websites, and I cannot find any explicit instructions for the diet. Perhaps it's a way of making people purchase the book.
his amount of protein would be more than enough for me to eat in a day, but according to the PE Diet I'm allowed 140 grams protein per day, so if I ate the above I would have shortfall of 62 grams of protein. Or am I getting it totally wrong?
You quote the ratio figure of 1.17, and I have come across a chart showing various foods and accompanying vegetables, and a figure at the side perhaps saying 1.5. Poultry and vegetables, for instance, show a figure of 2.5, which is higher than the ratios you quoted of 1.2/1.3. So would eating the higher ratio food be a good thing or a bad one?
Are you thinking I'm a lost cause? You'd probably be right. Perhaps I'd be best sticking to low carb, and just cutting down on the fats
Without protein without shakes how does anyone get to 160-170 gms protein?
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