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P:E dieting

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by bulkbiker, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Master

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    Definitely. Fish, chicken, cheese, Greek yoghurt all have a lot of protein, as do eggs. Harder to get it from plant based sources, but not impossible. Think @Krystyna23040 would be better placed to advise than me as I’m heavily red meat based.

    Bit of a matter of opinion. This is a decent guide: https://www.dietdoctor.com/food-policy/protein and based on the weight you gave, a rule of thumb would be anywhere between 109g and 180g a day.
     
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    ianpspurs Type 2 · Master

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    Thanks @Goonergal. I can happily eat fish - well salmon and sashimi, lamb shoulder if I have to but not on their own
     
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  3. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Master

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    Split into more than one meal, there’d be room for other ‘stuff’ on the plate or on a different plate. Green things do sometimes make an appearance on mine :hilarious:
     
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  4. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Phenomenal, your journey is a superb template for how to find your level. What if you just dogmatically stuck at 20 g? It is likely a combination of things you are doing, like a multiple revenue stream company. Love this.
     
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    ianpspurs Type 2 · Master

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    Thanks. This is absolutely N=1. I have read lots by Naiman and intellectually I nod happily. I just can't physically do it. Some kind of mental block I guess. I can happily eat cold - previously cooked, obviously- meat as a snack. Meat or fish on their own is a step too far.
     
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  6. Krystyna23040

    Krystyna23040 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    @lucylocket61 I don't eat very much red meat at all but as @Goonergal posted - eggs, cheese, fish, chicken and Greek yoghurt all do have plenty of protein.

    Like @ianpspurs I just cannot eat a plate full of protein so do supplement with about 30g of whey, pumpkin seed, chia seed or rice protein powders a day.
     
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    Krystyna23040 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, l agree that it is a combination of things I am doing and I will still definitely do 20g days as it has been a vital component of going into 'remission ' but it is so lovely to be able to do 30g days also.
     
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    lucylocket61 Type 2 · Expert

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    Well, I have worked out that I am only eating around 50g of protein a day. Is that bad?
     
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    Krystyna23040 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    @lucylocket61 I was eating between 40g and 50g of protein a day but am so much better on double that, or even up to 130g a day when I have a very active day. Have definitely built lean muscle mass on higher protein levels.
     
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    I cannot state that tomorrow the P:E diet will begin, but I certainly this relationship will be considered in my 60-day challenge period which will begin tomorrow (jan, 17, 2022).

    I will consider three basic guidelines:
    1. To keep my anxiety under control
    2. To keep under caloric deficit
    3. To keep a K/AK above 1.5(*) or a P:E above 1.1
    Theese items are presented hierachically, i.e., 1 is more important than 2 and 2 is more important than 3

    Guideline 3 will operate in the following manner: depending on my anxiety, my psycological hungry, I will keep the K/AK compliant, otherwise I will be P:E compliant, because P:E gives me more satiety.

    (*) For the ones who are unfamiliar with the K/AK factor:
    it can be accepted as a ketogenic meal some event which is compliant with the following formula:
    K/AK = (0.8*F + 0.46*P) / (1.0*C + 0.1*F + 0.58*P)
    P: protein; F: total fats; and C: carbohydrate
    To keep a ketogenic meal we need to keep a K/AK ratio greater than 1.50
    This formula is cited on [1, p. 52] from [2]
    Compared to the 4:1 original concept of the ketogenic diet, this formula is easier to be followed.

    [1] Lyle Mcdonald. The Ketogenic Diet: a complete guide for the dieter and practicioner. Austin: e-book, 1998.
    [2] Withrow CD. The ketogenic diet: mechanism of anticonvulsant action. Adv Neurol
    (1980) 7: 635-642
     
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