P:E dieting

Definitely. Fish, chicken, cheese, Greek yoghurt all have a lot of protein, as do eggs. Harder to get it from plant based sources, but not impossible. Think @Krystyna23040 would be better placed to advise than me as I’m heavily red meat based.

Bit of a matter of opinion. This is a decent guide: https://www.dietdoctor.com/food-policy/protein and based on the weight you gave, a rule of thumb would be anywhere between 109g and 180g a day.

 

Thanks @Goonergal. I can happily eat fish - well salmon and sashimi, lamb shoulder if I have to but not on their own

 

Split into more than one meal, there’d be room for other ‘stuff’ on the plate or on a different plate. Green things do sometimes make an appearance on mine

 

Phenomenal, your journey is a superb template for how to find your level. What if you just dogmatically stuck at 20 g? It is likely a combination of things you are doing, like a multiple revenue stream company. Love this.

 

Thanks. This is absolutely N=1. I have read lots by Naiman and intellectually I nod happily. I just can't physically do it. Some kind of mental block I guess. I can happily eat cold - previously cooked, obviously- meat as a snack. Meat or fish on their own is a step too far.

 

@lucylocket61 I don't eat very much red meat at all but as @Goonergal posted - eggs, cheese, fish, chicken and Greek yoghurt all do have plenty of protein.

Like @ianpspurs I just cannot eat a plate full of protein so do supplement with about 30g of whey, pumpkin seed, chia seed or rice protein powders a day.

 

Yes, l agree that it is a combination of things I am doing and I will still definitely do 20g days as it has been a vital component of going into 'remission ' but it is so lovely to be able to do 30g days also.

 

Well, I have worked out that I am only eating around 50g of protein a day. Is that bad?

 

@lucylocket61 I was eating between 40g and 50g of protein a day but am so much better on double that, or even up to 130g a day when I have a very active day. Have definitely built lean muscle mass on higher protein levels.

 

I cannot state that tomorrow the P:E diet will begin, but I certainly this relationship will be considered in my 60-day challenge period which will begin tomorrow (jan, 17, 2022).

I will consider three basic guidelines:

1. To keep my anxiety under control
2. To keep under caloric deficit
3. To keep a K/AK above 1.5(*) or a P:E above 1.1

Theese items are presented hierachically, i.e., 1 is more important than 2 and 2 is more important than 3

Guideline 3 will operate in the following manner: depending on my anxiety, my psycological hungry, I will keep the K/AK compliant, otherwise I will be P:E compliant, because P:E gives me more satiety.

(*) For the ones who are unfamiliar with the K/AK factor:
it can be accepted as a ketogenic meal some event which is compliant with the following formula:
K/AK = (0.8*F + 0.46*P) / (1.0*C + 0.1*F + 0.58*P)
P: protein; F: total fats; and C: carbohydrate
To keep a ketogenic meal we need to keep a K/AK ratio greater than 1.50
This formula is cited on [1, p. 52] from [2]
Compared to the 4:1 original concept of the ketogenic diet, this formula is easier to be followed.

[1] Lyle Mcdonald. The Ketogenic Diet: a complete guide for the dieter and practicioner. Austin: e-book, 1998.
[2] Withrow CD. The ketogenic diet: mechanism of anticonvulsant action. Adv Neurol
(1980) 7: 635-642