What have you eaten today? (Low carb forum)

@MrsA2 thank you

RosemaryJackson said:

What does having fat with carbs do?

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@RosemaryJackson, this is nothing to do with bg or diabetes, but it is recommended for everyone to add a little fat to any carbs that may contain vitamins and minerals, eg salad or fruit, to aid absorption of the phyto-nutrients.

@Alexandra100. Thank you. I'm trying to learn how to cope with everything so every bit of help is appreciated.

morning bg 6.3. Bf. ff greek yog with blueberries. L. Sausages,eggs, bacon, mushrooms and tomatoes. D. Rest of the breast of lamb with veg and mushroom sauce. With any luck that will be under 30g carbs today.

RosemaryJackson said:

morning bg 6.3. Bf. ff greek yog with blueberries. L. Sausages,eggs, bacon, mushrooms and tomatoes. D. Rest of the breast of lamb with veg and mushroom sauce. With any luck that will be under 30g carbs today.

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@RosemaryJackson Sounds great! Assuming the Greek yoghurt is not the 0% fat sort, you are consuming fat alongside the blueberries, mushrooms and other veg, so getting the full benefit of all the goodies in them. You are also getting protein in all 3 meals, which you likely realise as well as I do is very important, the more so the older we get. From the point of view of general well-being, I wonder if you could add in some hard cheese to increase your calcium intake? We are lucky enough in the UK to have a choice of cheeses with a high calcium content and very low or even zero carbs (do check the labels). To my shocked horror I have recently been diagnosed with osteopoenia, which is to osteoporosis rather as pre-diabetes is to diabetes, so I am being attentive to my calcium vitamin D3 and vitamin K3 intake.
For your fbg, are you able to stop eating 4 hours before bed? Highly inconvenient, I know, but may make a difference. This morning I got the worst fbg I've had in ages, following on from eating some almost carb-free Cheddar not long before bed.

@Alexandra100. Yes, it's full fat yogurt, It's Lidls and very creamy. I do have hard cheese and today have bought some babybels as a snack. Let's hope the vitamins you are now taking , help. I haven't heard of K3! I take cod liver oil, vitamin D3, Magnesium and B12 once or twice a week. I take the Magnesium because I get night cramps and they do help. I don't eat anything after my last meal which is between 5 and 6.

RosemaryJackson said:

I don't eat anything after my last meal which is between 5 and 6.

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@RosemaryJackson, well done indeed, you are doing so much for your health, and so well researched. Correction: I wrote K3 when it's K2 (with K2 : 7 supposedly the best). You can read about it here:
https://blogs.webmd.com/from-our-ar...m-in-your-bones-and-out-of-your-blood-vessels
I also watched a video by Dr Barry where he states that collagen is more important than calcium for avoiding osteoporosis: However Dr Barry is a bit far out for me. I have bought some high quality collagen, which is definitely helping my constipation, but of course I can't tell about my bones. He suggests eating egg shells, which I am NOT doing.
Now maybe YOU are sorry you asked!

RosemaryJackson said:

@Alexandra100. Yes, it's full fat yogurt, It's Lidls and very creamy. I do have hard cheese and today have bought some babybels as a snack. Let's hope the vitamins you are now taking , help. I haven't heard of K3! I take cod liver oil, vitamin D3, Magnesium and B12 once or twice a week. I take the Magnesium because I get night cramps and they do help. I don't eat anything after my last meal which is between 5 and 6.

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Agree with @Alexandra100 you need K2 to help you absorb the vit D3 I take K2 MK-7 which is recommended as @Alexandra100 has posted.

shelley262 said:

you need K2 to help you absorb the vit D3 I take K2 MK-7 which is recommended

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@shelley262, this is the one I have chosen, partly because you get 365 small pills in one bottle, so no need to faff around ordering more for a whole year.

Alexandra100 said:

@shelley262, this is the one I have chosen, partly because you get 365 small pills in one bottle, so no need to faff around ordering more for a whole year.
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That’s mine too great minds think alike

Just putting my tuppence worth in, has any body tried British Supplements?
https://www.british-supplements.net/
I take their VitD3+K2 but only in the winter.

Evening all.

Bit behind. 2 meals today. Breakfast of 0% Fage, cream and raspberries.
Dinner of home made burger, 2 lamb chops, smoked streaky bacon and a fried egg.
May have had a sneaky 75% chocolate ice cream at Venchi’s in Richmond on my way home from Richmond Park.



As an aside @shelley262 and @Alexandra100 as well as K2, magnesium is a co-factor for vitamin d3 absorption. I follow a D3 protocol which recommends that soft gels which contain only k2 and d3 alongside extra virgin olive oil or coconut oil are used, and that they be taken with a meal containing at least 14g fat as they are fat soluble.

@Speedbird thanks for that recommend - that company looks interesting plus they sell a magnesium type I’ve never tried - thought I’d had most but not threonate that they sell - plus you can get a sample pack fairly cheaply @Goonergal have you ever tried that one?im on magnesium citrate in am and bisglycinate in evening.
edit interesting article here
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/magnesium-threonate
Knew about need to take D3 and K2 alongside fat but hadn’t seen the soft gel combinations will look out when run out of supplies next. Supplements are not cheap but important to get them right if investing in them. @Speedbird i take D and K all year because of our northern climes - don’t feel we get enough sun for enough days in the year to make enough of our own.
Anyway back to the food today:
Breakfast one each of Hilo lc bread toasted,bacon rasher and egg
Lunch four lc seeded crackers with beetroot kimchi and a tin of sardine fillets in lemon and olive oil and two black cherry tomatoes followed by yoghurt with a few raspberries
Mid afternoon sipped my green clove tea I made it in the morning and let it sit and it was quite strong! Think will make and drink straight away next time.
Dinner chicken curry with cauliflower rice, Corriander and mint raita as well as two gins with soda water followed by a lc ginger cake warmed with more yoghurt.
My fermenting jars arrived today so plans afoot for later in week to start off some fermented veg although they take a while before ready so will need to buy the expensive live ones for sale for now!

All this talk of vitamin D and K has me somewhat confused. (Likely because I've never really looked into it, it's not a subject which has my natural interest, much like lipids.)
I used to have a vitamin D deficiency, got prescribed supplements, don't have a deficiency anymore. So why would it need something else if supplementing the D works?

Had snow peas with butter and salt and pork belly strips tonight.

I was sure I'd finished my chocolaty nut squares but hadn't found the inspiration to make a new batch yet. But while rummaging in the freezer for the pork belly strips I found a hidden bag, lucky me!

Brunch: Em came to visit late morning and eventually asked for pancakes, which I made for her but when she realised I was about to have bacon and egg, she wanted that as well, on top of the pancakes. So, a large pan of bacon and then 3 eggs (2 for me).

2nd meal: some frozen mash and peas - kind of bubble and squeak. Hasn't affected my BG at all - odd that but I guess it's just the frozen potato thing again.

Out to early yoga in a cold hall. Came home ravenous.
Ate 6 97% chipolatas nd 2 chicken drumsticks, a bit of cheese and 2 seedy crackers

Come dinner time, still not hungry so apart from tastes of the celeriac mash and cheese as I was cooking for the boys only had a packet of Cheesies and 2 sqs 85% choc. Not fancying alcohol and have a bit of a throat and headache. Still testing negative after my covid contacton Monday

Three hard boiled eggs, two slices low carb toast and vegimite for breakfast.
Nothing for smoko.
Mild chicken curry and veggies from our next door neighbour, tub of green jelly for lunch.
Last box of JO's fish cakes mashed on toast for supper at six.

Blue cheese and pepper crackers watching tv.

@Alexandra100. If you bake the egg shells, then crush them into powder, you can sprinkle some on your yogurt. I read about that a few years ago and my daughter did it and used it. But I didn't fancy it, but I might just try it now! I'm not at all sorry I asked! If I don't ask, I don't learn. @shelley262. I take vit D3 all year round because I read that as you get older, your body doesn't absorb it so well. Didn't know about the need to take them with fat. I do read a lot but can't always retain what I've read.

I forget to mention yesterday that I tried clove tea. I added 4 whole cloves to a cup of boiling water and let it sit for a few minutes. Was pleasant and tasty but I struggle to understand there's anything in there that would affect my gut, it was more of a scent than a substance.
Had a second cup later.
Might try grinding the cloves but even then sieving means I won't get anything into my gut, or will I?

MrsA2 said:

Might try grinding the cloves but even then sieving means I won't get anything into my gut, or will I?

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@MrsA2, I was shocked to find out that a cup of tea supplies about 0.5g carbs (versus a cup of brewed real coffee, which seems to be carb-free) so it appears to me that just as something reaches my gut from the tea, the same applies from those cloves. But very little?