1. Get the Diabetes Forum App for your phone - available on iOS and Android.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, we'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the Diabetes Forum Survey 2021 »
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Diabetes Forum should not be used in an emergency and does not replace your healthcare professional relationship. Posts can be seen by the public.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Guest, stay home, stay safe, save the NHS. Stay up to date with information about keeping yourself and people around you safe here and GOV.UK: Coronavirus (COVID-19). Think you have symptoms? NHS 111 service is available here.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community »

Why don't some people get it?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Soapbox - Have Your Say' started by PenfoldAPD, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. paula.nolan42

    paula.nolan42 · Guest

    Did you increase your exercise in that time too ?
     
  2. PenfoldAPD

    PenfoldAPD Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,643
    Likes Received:
    5,586
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Half heartedly if honest ....
     
  3. paula.nolan42

    paula.nolan42 · Guest

    Thanks @PenfoldAPD :)
     
  4. lorsand

    lorsand Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I have the same breakfast now, and I do like steak but think I may need to mix it up a little. I am one of the people who 'live to eat' rather than 'eat to live' (unfortunately). Thank you for answering my question.
     
  5. lorsand

    lorsand Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Does red wine not increase BG? oh please say no, please say no!
     
  6. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

    Messages:
    16,934
    Likes Received:
    11,576
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Allegedly not.. I don't drink at all but have read that a glass is possible without raising (and maybe even causing a slight drop). As always experimentation and your meter are your friends.. good luck!
     
    • Like Like x 4
  7. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

    Messages:
    25,027
    Likes Received:
    30,523
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Red wine, dry white, whiskey, vodka (with sugar-free mixes of course) will not raise your BS but be aware they are very calorific, so if you need to lose weight keep the units down. :)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

    Messages:
    13,202
    Likes Received:
    12,462
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Hey, I've been told to drink some alcohol to put some weight on!!
     
  9. TomGreen101

    TomGreen101 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    79
    Trophy Points:
    68
    I eat what I like and medicate accordingly. My cholesterol is 1 and always has been low without meds.
    My Hb1ac is 6.1 Nd my sugars are all within my target range 4- 8.
    It isn't uncommon for me to eat 4 slices of pizza, chocolate eclairs, fries, burgers etc. I basically eat the way I always have. I do watch calories and try to stay under 2000.
    My attitude is life is short and I'm not going to compromise what I enjoy.
    I've been T2 for at least 30 years but didn't take care of it until 15 years ago and noticed vision loss. If I have an occasional high reading I don't freak out about it, just take some correctional NovoRapid. To me I have the best of both worlds.
     
  10. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,699
    Likes Received:
    9,088
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Brilliant!
     
  11. DeniseM

    DeniseM Type 2 · Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    43
    I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes 15 years ago, was put on Metformin and told not to eat anything sweet. I was not overweight but diabetes is in my Dad's side of the family. I was never told about a LCHF diet and in fact, only found out about it when nosying around this forum! I asked by DN about it and she said to eat small amounts of carbohydrates! I'm getting conflicting advice! Consequently, I am eating small amounts of carbohydrates and a healthy diet but have now been put on insulin. I'm very confused and don't know who to believe any more.
     
    • Hug Hug x 1
  12. mfactor

    mfactor Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    605
    Trophy Points:
    133

    @DeniseM Just try it :) , loads of success stories on here . My bloods were haywire last summer (high teens) so went LCHF and they started dropping after 2 weeks and were "good" after 4 weeks...

    6 months later ,3 stone light and my DN said I am "No longer in the diabetic range"

    Yes I cleaned my diet up as well using myfitnesspal and exercise 3/4 times a week (weights) but have been doing that for decades so probably not a factor....

    My advice try LCHF for a month or 2 , and see where it takes you, its not much time in the great scheme of things and could change your health for the rest of your life:)

    Jase
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  13. Brunneria

    Brunneria Other · Moderator
    Staff Member

    Messages:
    21,043
    Likes Received:
    34,665
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Hi and welcome.
    I am afraid there are a number of reasons for the conflicting advice on diets for T2s.

    While there have been low carb diets around for centuries, and they were originally used for treating diabetics, attitudes in the diet and medical professions changed a lot with dietary fashion (the whole low fat for heart health idea that hit in the 60s and 70s). The NHS adopted this low fat thinking wholesale, and is still using it, whereas newer, more rigorous research has shown that the whole low fat/cholesterol/heart health hypothesis was based on faulty interpretation of selected evidence.

    Unfortunately this return to older lower carb thinking has not yet worked its way through to most NHS workers. I read a comment recently which stated that prevailing NHS dogma usually runs about 15 years behind the cutting edge of research - which is a depressing thing, if it is true.

    So, long story short, I would try it for a couple of months and see how you feel (adjusting insulin intake accordingly), and how your blood glucose levels go.
    - but one thing I do agree with your nurse on - small amounts of carbs are MUCH better than big amounts of carbs! :D
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
    #193 Brunneria, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:57 AM
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 22, 2016
  14. lorsand

    lorsand Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Thank you.
     
  15. mrsmusic

    mrsmusic LADA · Active Member

    Messages:
    30
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    58
    Hi Penfold. I'm just like you, diagnosed in January and simply getting on with making the most of the situation and dealing with it. Yes, results are easily achieved with Low Carbs etc. I appreciate your plain speaking, and agree, it's just not that impossible to deal with if you want to ensure a healthy future. I too got a massive shock but have got my blood sugar down from 20 to between 4.7-6.5 within 3 months...by doing the right thing...and feel really well too. Good luck to you!
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  16. PenfoldAPD

    PenfoldAPD Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,643
    Likes Received:
    5,586
    Trophy Points:
    178
    @mrsmusic well done to you, sounds like you are winning the battle. I've accepted that some people need to be spoon fed - I was on a course this week and some of the other attendees take no responsibility for their own health.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. Xan2cv

    Xan2cv Type 2 · Member

    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Ive had type 2 for about ten years now, I had 27 DVT's and five blood clots in my lungs over a 25 year period which messed with my circulation this led to a sedentary lifestyle because I couldn't move around so much as I did before the health condition.
    Type 2 I will never understand now on insulin my sugars are always around 17.0 in the mornings and low again down to 6.0 or below by 5pm every day without fail. my weight loss has been progressive as I went up to 27 stone and now I am 19 stone, dieting gets harder every time I try it again. I think Stress has a lot to do with it as I have been doing my level best to care for my elderly parents for the last three years.
    I know it will kill me if I don't get a handle on it and yes I'm scared it will kill me off quicker.
    But the needs of others are much more important at the moment than my own.
    everyone says I must look after myself but that is much harder to do in reality.
     
    • Hug Hug x 2
  18. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

    Messages:
    13,202
    Likes Received:
    12,462
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Your needs are important and can be managed around caring for others. Honest.

    Diabetes on insulin is managing your insulin and food. Whether sedentary lifestyle or not. Fit people going to gym and work etc have to allow time to manage. And take control and so can you.

    Your post sounds as if you are a little down in heart and well being.... This is hugely important to gaining better physical health... I lnow you can improve things... Just from the one post I have read. Crikey, you've lost 6st and that require some good thoughts and determination.

    Please, don't despair... Diabetes is liveable and should not condemn you to less good thoughts... You've done well so far.

    If you are dropping with your bloods then your food and insulin isn't balances. It can be improved.... What insulin are you using. Do you test before each meal and 2 hours afterwards.

    I feel that you have resugned yourself to struggling with diabetes etc but it is so possible to get improvement....
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  19. paula.nolan42

    paula.nolan42 · Guest

    I have just finished the Diet Doctor 2 week LCHF Challenge, I think it's fair to say the LCHF has certainly lowered my BGs. And I learned a lot from it. I certainly will take on the Low Carb element. But as for the High Fat, that has been less than ideal, initially I lost 1.7kg but that week back on in week 2. No weight loss for me and my jeans feeling slightly snug again. I don't get out for a walk everyday and my work life is sedentary, I simply don't burn enough up calories to allow for all that extra fat. And I was never full, never felt satisfied, even though I ate plenty.

    What Diabetes has shown me is that I have a serious problem with my relationship with food. I have no off switch. And I have very little control. And when it all goes bad, I binge and gorge myself. Giving up cigarettes has been easier than changing my food habits. I was out with a friend yesterday for a catch up, as we talked, I realised I was using the language of addiction. And I think I might actually have to seek advice for what's going on in my head about all this.
     
    • Hug Hug x 3
  20. ladybird64

    ladybird64 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,731
    Likes Received:
    1,904
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Paula, sending empathy and understanding - I'm going through exactly the same thing at the moment. Under pretty awful stress and old habits are showing themselves..it is incredibly tough to control. Just wanted to say that x
     
    • Hug Hug x 1
  • Meet the Community

    Find support, connect with others, ask questions and share your experiences with people with diabetes, their carers and family.

    Did you know: 7 out of 10 people improve their understanding of diabetes within 6 months of being a Diabetes Forum member. Get the Diabetes Forum App and stay connected on iOS and Android

    Grab the app!
  • Tweet with us

  • Like us on Facebook