I eat potaotes lots of them

[Lamont D]

I love chip buttie with tomato sauce and vinegar!!

However, they would put me in high double figures!

Though no corroboration, the starch in potatoes seem to have a detrimental effect on me!

Enjoy your spuds, you lucky people. Not had one for over ten years!!!!!

 

[lucylocket61]

now i am craving chips......................home made and cooked in lard

 

[NicoleC1971]

I eat potatoes lots of them and I love them especially smashed potatoes I cook them the night before and let them cool in the fridge overnight this gives me resistant starch potatoes doesn't affect my blood sugars at all my 7 day blood sugar reading is 6.7 .
I use the Freestyle Libra expensive but does control my blood sugars this should be on the NHS but it won't because of the expense and I can test a 100 times a day if I wish
smashed potatoes are a potato which is boiled left to cool then pressed down flat then lightly olive oil a frying pan and gently cook them till they are crispy delicious
my meds are

Isulin fast and slow acting
Amiodarone
Indapamide
apixiban
cardioplan
atvorstatin
levoththyroxine
dapagliflozin
fenofibrate
ramipril
metformin

conditions are
diabetes 2
Edema
hiatel hernia
pernicious anemia
heart failure
Irregular heartbeat
pacemaker
high blood pressure
high cholesterol
I rattle when I walk

Spud U Like?
Sounds as if potatoes are your drug of choice. Fair enough and the fact that you've cooled them off before reheating may help with blood sugars. If you ever wanted to reduce your diabetic meds then subbing in some more meat or fish or eggs may help...

 

[Daphne917]

Results don’t back this up. Maybe it’s the starch or as yet to be identified feature. When well controlled Type 2’s try potatoes especially at Christmas, it is always a train wreck. I believe 1 person from Australia in remission has low carb potatoes, and another person limits the size and volume, but on the whole the glucose responses I have read on this site with the anecdotes are not positive.

I‘m a well controlled T2 and can eat potatoes with little effect on my BS

 

[Mbaker]

I‘m a well controlled T2 and can eat potatoes with little effect on my BS

I am genuinely glad for you, I don't expect to see many more after you, based on the woes previously recorded. Too many accounts year after year.

 

[LaoDan]

Are people that eat potatoes more likely to rattle when they walk? I’ve never heard anyone actually rattle.

 

[Resurgam]

Yesterday I ate salmon - I found a 1kg piece of salmon lost in the freezer since last Christmas - later today I am going to buy a swede, then boil and mash some - or all - sometimes they are big and sometimes small.
I have gone right off eating though and have been having one small meal a day. I am showing no sign of fading away though.

 

[Daphne917]

I am genuinely glad for you, I don't expect to see many more after you, based on the woes previously recorded. Too many accounts year after year.

Apologies I’m not sure what you mean unless you are intimating that if T2 diabetics eat potatoes they will lose control of their BS?

 

[Roggg]

I love potatoes and I'm happy for you OP that you can enjoy them. But my goal is getting off meds, and I don't know of many success stories for reversing T2 that involve potatoes, smashed or otherwise. So good luck to you, but I'll have to be content with my cauliflower puree.

 

[lucylocket61]

This thread underlines how different we are in our reactions to carbs, and how important personal testing is for us to make informed choices.

 

[Mbaker]

Apologies I’m not sure what you mean unless you are intimating that if T2 diabetics eat potatoes they will lose control of their BS?

I follow the 80 / 20 rule. I believe potatoes are not sustainable for the 80, the obseravtion that most in remission do not do potatoes I believe to be fact, because they spike most of the time when tested. I think there are a lot who have tried to incorporate this veg, and found out it is not for them.

Some "big wigs" in the lower carb movement such as Phinney / Vollek, Fung, Westman, Berry, Lyons, Naimen all with practices, never mention potatoes in the protocols they give their tens of thousands of patients treated for diabetes; I have not seen one senior low carb Doctor, or come to think of it influencer, use potatoes as part of the reversal / remission scenarios. I have not seen on Diet Doctor or similar the inclusion of potatoes, or in the several programs I have read such as Atkins, Bernsteins, several ebooks with versions of low carb / Keto / carnivore. My wife does not use potatoes in her practice. Although I have appealled to authority, I think it is relevant what the "experts" choose to do.

No one is forced to to a low carb protocol and maybe a low calorie diet includes starchier foods, or persons just choose of free will do have a potato option on no particular dietary pattern.

Persons such as Stan Efferding and Mark Bell (who have sports based clients) do advocate potatoes on occasion with meat, for elite power based athletes.

I choose not to do potatoes, along with yam, green bannas, rice, pasta, bread, bread fruit etc. I researched how potatoes were cultivated which formed part of my decision, along with knowing it was one of the foods I was eating at peak diagnosis. Like rice, I think the protein and or sauce that goes with potatoes tastes better, so mentally I personally got over potatoes years ago (I do appreciate others like them).

The purpose of my post was to present an alternative observation for newbies, who might think that potatoes generally work for Type 2's. I do feel that 80, of the 80 / 20 rule would loose tight control of their Type 2, if they ate "normal" size amounts of potatoes.

Ironically I could probably eat potatoes, as I have larger than average muscle mass which is a glucose sync, so I would probably spike and come down quickly, but will never knowingly eat potatoes or things made from them again. I do include butternut squash, carrots and beetroot probably 3 or 4 times a week with family meals, I also have clementines around 3 times a week in a predominant Keto Carnivore lifestyle, tested many times via manual monitors, Libres and A1C's.

 

[LaoDan]

I follow the 80 / 20 rule. I believe potatoes are not sustainable for the 80, the obseravtion that most in remission do not do potatoes I believe to be fact, because they spike most of the time when tested. I think there are a lot who have tried to incorporate this veg, and found out it is not for them.

Some "big wigs" in the lower carb movement such as Phinney / Vollek, Fung, Westman, Berry, Lyons, Naimen all with practices, never mention potatoes in the protocols they give their tens of thousands of patients treated for diabetes; I have not seen one senior low carb Doctor, or come to think of it influencer, use potatoes as part of the reversal / remission scenarios. I have not seen on Diet Doctor or similar the inclusion of potatoes, or in the several programs I have read such as Atkins, Bernsteins, several ebooks with versions of low carb / Keto / carnivore. My wife does not use potatoes in her practice. Although I have appealled to authority, I think it is relevant what the "experts" choose to do.

No one is forced to to a low carb protocol and maybe a low calorie diet includes starchier foods, or persons just choose of free will do have a potato option on no particular dietary pattern.

Persons such as Stan Efferding and Mark Bell (who have sports based clients) do advocate potatoes on occasion with meat, for elite power based athletes.

I choose not to do potatoes, along with yam, green bannas, rice, pasta, bread, bread fruit etc. I researched how potatoes were cultivated which formed part of my decision, along with knowing it was one of the foods I was eating at peak diagnosis. Like rice, I think the protein and or sauce that goes with potatoes tastes better, so mentally I personally got over potatoes years ago (I do appreciate others like them).

The purpose of my post was to present an alternative observation for newbies, who might think that potatoes generally work for Type 2's. I do feel that 80, of the 80 / 20 rule would loose tight control of their Type 2, if they ate "normal" size amounts of potatoes.

Ironically I could probably eat potatoes, as I have larger than average muscle mass which is a glucose sync, so I would probably spike and come down quickly, but will never knowingly eat potatoes or things made from them again. I do include butternut squash, carrots and beetroot probably 3 or 4 times a week with family meals, I also have clementines around 3 times a week in a predominant Keto Carnivore lifestyle, tested many times via manual monitors, Libres and A1C's.

Huge fan of Stan Efferding, but these guys need 7000 calories a day with tons of carbs (white rice) just to support their lifting. Most of us T2s aren’t athletes in that sense, so their diet might not be appropriate. I totally agree with much of what he says. I believe if Stan took me in as a client, there’s no way he’d let me have potatoes lol

 

[Mbaker]

Huge fan of Stan Efferding, but these guys need 7000 calories a day with tons of carbs (white rice) just to support their lifting. Most of us T2s aren’t athletes in that sense, so their diet might not be appropriate. I totally agree with much of what he says. I believe if Stan took me in as a client, there’s no way he’d let me have potatoes lol

He’s great, fixed his metabolic syndrome and brought his A1C down to low 5’s, is well read and truly wants to help people. I like his ability to adjust low carb to ultimate performance levels (Words Strongest Men) whilst also being knowledgable enough to treat diabetics - same with Mark Bell.

I think his biggest contribution to the pot is the 10 minute walks , especially after meals. I love this, as it is protocol independent and works for all who can walk with no aggression and easy entry. I think Stan still holds current combined records for deadlift and squat;. It’s a shame we don’t get to live this physical life twice, I do think his diet (The Vertical Diet) would work in the absence of accumulated sugars over the years, as it is whole foods based. .

 

[Daphne917]

I follow the 80 / 20 rule. I believe potatoes are not sustainable for the 80, the obseravtion that most in remission do not do potatoes I believe to be fact, because they spike most of the time when tested. I think there are a lot who have tried to incorporate this veg, and found out it is not for them.

Some "big wigs" in the lower carb movement such as Phinney / Vollek, Fung, Westman, Berry, Lyons, Naimen all with practices, never mention potatoes in the protocols they give their tens of thousands of patients treated for diabetes; I have not seen one senior low carb Doctor, or come to think of it influencer, use potatoes as part of the reversal / remission scenarios. I have not seen on Diet Doctor or similar the inclusion of potatoes, or in the several programs I have read such as Atkins, Bernsteins, several ebooks with versions of low carb / Keto / carnivore. My wife does not use potatoes in her practice. Although I have appealled to authority, I think it is relevant what the "experts" choose to do.

No one is forced to to a low carb protocol and maybe a low calorie diet includes starchier foods, or persons just choose of free will do have a potato option on no particular dietary pattern.

Persons such as Stan Efferding and Mark Bell (who have sports based clients) do advocate potatoes on occasion with meat, for elite power based athletes.

I choose not to do potatoes, along with yam, green bannas, rice, pasta, bread, bread fruit etc. I researched how potatoes were cultivated which formed part of my decision, along with knowing it was one of the foods I was eating at peak diagnosis. Like rice, I think the protein and or sauce that goes with potatoes tastes better, so mentally I personally got over potatoes years ago (I do appreciate others like them).

The purpose of my post was to present an alternative observation for newbies, who might think that potatoes generally work for Type 2's. I do feel that 80, of the 80 / 20 rule would loose tight control of their Type 2, if they ate "normal" size amounts of potatoes.

Most ‘newbies’ on this forum are immediately bombarded with the advice not to eat potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, fruit etc so I think that they are made aware of this. What they are not always told is that, for some diabetics, these foods can be tolerated albeit in smaller portions. I am the first to appreciate that I am fortunate in that I have managed to maintain a non diabetic Hba1c for approx 7 years on between 100 - 130g carbs per day which is, admittedly, more than some have in a week however I am not the only one so it can be done.

 

[Mbaker]

Most ‘newbies’ on this forum are immediately bombarded with the advice not to eat potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, fruit etc so I think that they are made aware of this. What they are not always told is that, for some diabetics, these foods can be tolerated albeit in smaller portions. I am the first to appreciate that I am fortunate in that I have managed to maintain a non diabetic Hba1c for approx 7 years on between 100 - 130g carbs per day which is, admittedly, more than some have in a week however I am not the only one so it can be done.

My opinion is the percentage is too small who can tolerate, akin to those who can smoke for a lifetime, live to 100 and not get cancer.

I really do appreciate your sentiments, but I will put you on the spot and ask what percentage do you think of well controlled, reversed, in remission Type 2's can eat at meals a portion of say roasted potatoes typically seen for a Sunday dinner (I used to do 3 or 4) or a large baked potato say with tuna or cheese (used to do this as the "healthy option" at Sainsbury's" and home meals)?

I to eat off grid, so know where you are coming from, but if this thread were the first I had seen and I saw tolerance of potatoes, I might waste 9 months; this is what I did with home made bread. It also took the same length of time to not fear fat and to understand Type 2 is reversible.

 

[Mr_Pot]

Most ‘newbies’ on this forum are immediately bombarded with the advice not to eat potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, fruit etc so I think that they are made aware of this. What they are not always told is that, for some diabetics, these foods can be tolerated albeit in smaller portions. I am the first to appreciate that I am fortunate in that I have managed to maintain a non diabetic Hba1c for approx 7 years on between 100 - 130g carbs per day which is, admittedly, more than some have in a week however I am not the only one so it can be done.

Good point. If someone is currently eating say 250g of carbs a day then halving that may be all that's needed. I have been low carb and upper 30's HbA1c for nearly 5 years on about 80g a day. That gives me a lot of flexibility in what I eat which makes it sustainable for the long term.

 

[Daphne917]

My opinion is the percentage is too small who can tolerate, akin to those who can smoke for a lifetime, live to 100 and not get cancer.

I really do appreciate your sentiments, but I will put you on the spot and ask what percentage do you think of well controlled, reversed, in remission Type 2's can eat at meals a portion of say roasted potatoes typically seen for a Sunday dinner (I used to do 3 or 4) or a large baked potato say with tuna or cheese (used to do this as the "healthy option" at Sainsbury's" and home meals)?

I to eat off grid, so know where you are coming from, but if this thread were the first I had seen and I saw tolerance of potatoes, I might waste 9 months; this is what I did with home made bread. It also took the same length of time to not fear fat and to understand Type 2 is reversible.

I haven’t a clue of the percentage and have no intention of trying to work it out but I am assuming you do as you are quoting the 80/20 rule. Most people new to the forum tend to read as much as possible so, even if they do read this thread first, further reading will increase their understanding and help them make an informed decision. However their decision will be made depending on what type of diabetes they have.

 

[Daibell]

Most ‘newbies’ on this forum are immediately bombarded with the advice not to eat potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, fruit etc so I think that they are made aware of this. What they are not always told is that, for some diabetics, these foods can be tolerated albeit in smaller portions. I am the first to appreciate that I am fortunate in that I have managed to maintain a non diabetic Hba1c for approx 7 years on between 100 - 130g carbs per day which is, admittedly, more than some have in a week however I am not the only one so it can be done.

Hi. That level of carbs per day is quite low and no doubt the reason you are in remission. Many T2s will have come to this forum having at least double that number of carbs and will have insulin resistance. Within that 100-130 gm/day it's of course fine to have them in any form. Those in the 200-300gm area following 'recommended Calorie input' will no doubt need to reduce their carbs.

 

[Mbaker]

I haven’t a clue of the percentage and have no intention of trying to work it out but I am assuming you do as you are quoting the 80/20 rule. Most people new to the forum tend to read as much as possible so, even if they do read this thread first, further reading will increase their understanding and help them make an informed decision. However their decision will be made depending on what type of diabetes they have.

I would then suggest to newbies and the experienced to make their choice.

 

[zand]

For me I think there's 2 issues here. BG spikes and weight loss. Potatoes don't spike my BGs as much as other higher carb foods but they do get in the way of my weight loss efforts, so I guess if I was a slim T2 I would have small portions of them fairly regularly, but as an obese one I daren't. Plus that fact that a small portion would never be enough for me.