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Blood Sugar in High 20's and GP not helping, please advise

My typical diet is 2 x sachets of porrige at approx. 1pm and then I have my dinner at approx. 5pm.

For my dinner I have either sandwiches ( 6 x slices of bread) with crisps or a meal containing meat and potatoes.

I don't know how I am going to follow a low carb diet as, as you can see, I eat a lot of them. I don't like vegatables or yogart.

I know I'm over eating, just don't know how to stop it. So ashamed.


Scottie
You have ate previously... And you have saud you have been / are overweight. This indicates to me from above postings and recent ones that you struggle with balancing your foods....

Above you said you don't like vegetables.. But I too was the same with olives and avocados three weeks ago.. I just started eating a 1/4 a day. Same with fish... Found a brilluant recipe for fishcakes...
Just putting a teaspoon on a plate at a time with a bit of a sauce to disguise taste is a way to eating different things... Mines a chilli, ginger garlic sauce on salmon... But it enables me to eat it.

Now in 3 weeks I'm eating a full avocado and 6 olives a day!!!

It seems that you have now cut out carbs but have nothing to replace them with?

Would you consider having a complan drink just to ensure that your bowels and stomach are getting liquid and some nutrition?

Totally understand the vomiting making hesitate to eat!!! Its totally disgusting....
 
Scottie
You have ate previously... And you have saud you have been / are overweight. This indicates to me from above postings and recent ones that you struggle with balancing your foods....

Above you said you don't like vegetables.. But I too was the same with olives and avocados three weeks ago.. I just started eating a 1/4 a day. Same with fish... Found a brilluant recipe for fishcakes...
Just putting a teaspoon on a plate at a time with a bit of a sauce to disguise taste is a way to eating different things... Mines a chilli, ginger garlic sauce on salmon... But it enables me to eat it.

Now in 3 weeks I'm eating a full avocado and 6 olives a day!!!

It seems that you have now cut out carbs but have nothing to replace them with?

Would you consider having a complan drink just to ensure that your bowels and stomach are getting liquid and some nutrition?

Totally understand the vomiting making hesitate to eat!!! Its totally disgusting....

Yes, I am very overweight, and also finding it hard to find foods to replace foods that I previously ate. But normally I am managing. I am eating lots of meat, eggs, salads, Ryvita (which I am no longer having). Yes, I would consider a complan drink but I really want to have three small meals per day. Just this week I have decided to bake my breakfasts, something I never ate before. Am going to make breakfast muffins and pancakes for the week.
 
I'm not going 'off in a tangent' but rather logging off to have a cup of tea before my dinner and cuddle my daughter.

Will update later with BG levels post food. :)
 
Scottie, from what I have read so far, you have been trying hard . There is room for improvement, just the same as it's been for everyone. Change is difficult , but it can be made in baby steps over a period of time, rather than all at once. No one is that superhuman :rolleyes:

The conclusions I have come to is that your blood glucose started high at the beginning of this thread, and while there has been some improvement, it's still too high . Too high for this to be due to what you are eating This tells that there are a number of possible scenarios going on here :

1) The current meds and doses you are on are still insufficient to overcome your insulin resistance, and your weight may be a factor in this.

2) You are not producing sufficient insulin to make your meds effective

3) a combination of both of the above.

If this is the case, trying on your own to get your BG's down is going to be like pushing a wet sock uphill with your nose :rolleyes:. I'm thinking that when you see the other GP, you take along your blood glucose readings for the last month. You should be able to do this the easy way by downloading your Contour USB on to your laptop or PC and printing them off to take with you. If it's not possible, then it needs to be the old fashioned way, copied by hand into a log book.

The emphasis with your meeting with the GP needs to be these figures. They are important in deciding the way forward. Don't dos.cuss what you are eating in any great depth, keep to the fact that you are " adjusting your diet to stabilise your blood sugars and hopefully lose weight " .

It's too easy to get bogged down in the dietry aspects and for most GP's there is a certain response you can expect if you mention low carb, let alone higher fat. This distracts from the important , primary reason that you are seeing the GP, that you have tried, and are unable to control your blood glucose.


(I am now stuck in bold, thanks to my useless tablet please disregard this :banghead:)

I seem to remember that you are seeing the nurse next week to have your bloods taken, and I'm assuming that this is for your HbA1c . I'm anticipating that your GP may not suggest any alteration in your meds until the results are back , and I'm also anticipating your HbA1c will be quite high, given the high levels you have been experiencing. If this is the case, don't stress about it. It works in your favour towards further investigation , and it's likely you will be recalled to see your GP.

If you are unhappy with the suggestions made by your GP at this point, ask for a referral to your specialist diabetic clinic at your local hospital.

In the meantime, carry on with what you are doing, you have had some lower readings, and even though your BG's are still high, they are not getting any higher. :) Once you get your meds regime sorted out, it will get a whole lot easier, you will start to feel better, and the diet aspect will seem more manageable .

For now, accept that there is a limited amount that you can do until medical intervention takes place, and relax a little , worry wise ;)

Signy

 
I'm not going 'off in a tangent' but rather logging off to have a cup of tea before my dinner and cuddle my daughter.

Will update later with BG levels post food. :)

Loved it at my friends when we both put her 4 yr old daughter to bed when they bith tucked up and discussed the day.... It was wonderful to see. Dinner and cuddles is lovely!!
 
Hello

My blood sugar has been in the high 20's and 30's for approx. one week.

I don't know what is causing it, have not been eating or drinking anything I shouldn't.

My eyesight is very bad at the moment, I feel like the my head is spinning. My left foot is feeling numb and I feel really poorly.

I spoke to my GP at the end of last week and he suggested insuin but did not take it any further and said I needed a blood test so I had one yesterday.
The nurse said she would mark it as urgent and it would be back today, it hasn't come back and the surgery does not seem concerned at all.

Please could anybody advise.

Thank you.
H Scottie,
My Mother has experienced the same results for the last 2 or 3 weeks. Again, she hasn't eaten or drunk anything she shouldn't. However, I have noticed that any potatoes we have eaten have been much sweeter, so much so that I have been unable to eat them and I do not have diabetes. Could there be a link? My Mother has also experienced severe dizziness and poor balance as well as a very dry mouth. GP has increased medication and conducted blood tests and checked blood pressure.
 
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Scottie

As your GP (don't know whether it is the nice one you are seeing on Monday) had suggested insulin at one point it maybe that the GP needs a prompt to rediscuss this.

Is anybody going with you to your appointment?

Hope you have good cuddles with daughter....
 
Thanks for all that information Heathernlass,I am going to print off my results and take the to my appointment.

I agree that my weight isn't helping at all, with only a small loss. But I am counting both calories and carbs. I think it's wise to not mention LCHF, I wouldn't want the response I had before though I'm sure it will be on my records.
 
Scottie

As your GP (don't know whether it is the nice one you are seeing on Monday) had suggested insulin at one point it maybe that the GP needs a prompt to rediscuss this.

Is anybody going with you to your appointment?

Hope you have good cuddles with daughter....

Yes, the one I am seeing on Monday is the one that suggested insulin so I will mention it to him. My husband is going with me.

Something needs to be done, and soon. I'm trying to do my bits in not having any sugar or sugary fopds, low amount of carbs, calorie controlled. But the longer this goes on, the more it is affecting my body.

Does having injections of insulin mean you are a Type 1? As I only thought type 1s had insulin.

Lovely cuddles with my daughter, thank you.. I am cherishing them so much as she is growing up far too quickly. Tucked up in bed now, with her tooth fairy pillow hanging on her door waiting for her to arrive. Teeth are very expensive these days, you know!

BG before dinner 17.2, that's down from 24 this morning.
 
No, Scottie. You cannot be a Type 2 then a Type 1, as the causes are quite different. You would still be a Type 2, but one who also takes insulin. Quite a few Type 2's do

It is possible in some cases for Late Adult Onset of Type 1 to be misdiagnosed as Type 2, but there are blood tests for antibodies that distinguish the two, and late onset type 1's generally do not respond to Type 2 meds so usually that is caught fairly early on.

A very simplistic explanation there, by the way :D

Signy
 
Ahh, I see, Thanks for clearing that up. It has been mentioned on this thread that I may be a late onset Type1 , but I am thinking that may be because they imagined I had only been recently diagnosed.

When you inject insulin, does that mean you will have to do it for the rest of your life?
 
That's a question for your GP Scottie. Just dismiss what you can and focus on the results. THEY HAVE IMPROVED. You cannot expect immediate returns on everything.

You will shake your head in a few months time just wondering why you tried to race to the finish line rather than walking. Get it out of your head, stick to the program and dismiss stress
 
If I am honest Mike, I feel somewhat under pressure to get my BG levels lower.

I'm sure I will look back and wonder why I didn't take baby steps.
 
I remember very clearly feeling so dreadfully ill before being diagnosed as a T1. My hba1c when diagnosed was 17.
I know as will many here how awful you can feel with your bloods running high and I believe you have tried and still continue to try to get them lower.
Your situation reminds me of @Molly56 partner who was high for a long time and is now on a mixed dose insulin.
Personally I feel that you can have a discussion with the nicer GP about just minimising the sugars (you do not have to say anything about lchf). Reminds me if @ally1 too because when her meds changed and with amended diet her levels have lowered. we are all 100% behind you here... But we don't like seeing people suffering needlessly when a change if meds could help.

Lovely to hear if tooth fairy...but scare me.... What is the payment nowadays?
 
If I am honest Mike, I feel somewhat under pressure to get my BG levels lower.

I'm sure I will look back and wonder why I didn't take baby steps.

The only pressure you apply should come from you ... the figures have dropped ... that is enough for now ..... just as long as the figures slide slowly down

Can they be improved? Without question. Will you get there? Yep, you will. Took me a few weeks, others months. Stick those figures on a spreadsheet, ignore the odd blips and get on with it :)
 
Thanks for all that information Heathernlass,I am going to print off my results and take the to my appointment.

I agree that my weight isn't helping at all, with only a small loss. But I am counting both calories and carbs. I think it's wise to not mention LCHF, I wouldn't want the response I had before though I'm sure it will be on mcords.

Yes Scottie doctors don't seem keen on any kind of diets other than"eat normally and cut down take more exercise type of thing" . When I was diagnosed last June ..just given meds and told to lost weight etc . This forum as given me for more help and advise than any "professional ". We are all different and react differently to certain foods , but like several others have suggested you need to eat more and at regular intervals .As you have said yourself you suffer from other problems " anxiety etc and this I think is compounding everything for you . Take each day as it comes and as others have said "small steps ".
 
This is going to sound like madness, but you don't really need to count cals when you are low carbing because not all calories are the same. It's the carbs that are the problem. The calories in = calories out equation never worked for me at all.
 
This is going to sound like madness, but you don't really need to count cals when you are low carbing because not all calories are the same. It's the carbs that are the problem. The calories in = calories out equation never worked for me at all.

I wish I could get my head round the carb calorie thing cos I've been a yo yo dieter since the 80,s had lots of success at losing weight but always gone on mad binge eating hence the weight gain . Like many folk I have a problem with food ..eat when I'm tired , upset , down , stressed , bored ( AND SOMETIMES WHEN i'M HUNGRY LOL) . I'm sort of (flirting with low carb higher fat ) The later is difficult cos of yrs of media / health advice etc on the perils of FAT makes u fat thought .
 
I wish I could get my head round the carb calorie thing cos I've been a yo yo dieter since the 80,s had lots of success at losing weight but always gone on mad binge eating hence the weight gain . Like many folk I have a problem with food ..eat when I'm tired , upset , down , stressed , bored ( AND SOMETIMES WHEN i'M HUNGRY LOL) . I'm sort of (flirting with low carb higher fat ) The later is difficult cos of yrs of media / health advice etc on the perils of FAT makes u fat thought .

When diagnosed, I never had a true goal to lose weight. Trimming up made sense, but my absolute objective was to get the blood numbers into line, then think about the rest.

So, I cut the major carbs, started testing and began getting to grips with the number curves fasting/pre food/ post food etc. without any effort, my luuuurve handles just started vapourising. Not that stage I was eating full fat products, but modest quantities. I only increased my fat intake when my numbers had come down, and I needed to think about stabilising my weight. Now, I do eat more fat than ever before, but it's still not as much as many on here consume.

For me, the answer was to take things in stages, dealing with one major topic at a time, the tweaking protein/fat/carbs to try to attain a steady state. When it came to it, stopping weight loss was harder for me than starting it - although I do completely appreciate this isn't always the case.

If you have weight to shift, try cutting the carbs, and only increasing the fat if you are ravenous, then doing so in small amounts. I used Mini Babybel cheeses as a great dosing tool. They're nicely packed in bite sized chunks, but feel more substantial to consume, bearing in mind each piece needs to be "undressed" before eating. It's also easier to control exactly how much one is consuming too. A slice of cheese off a block can be small, medium, large or outrageous, without too much effort!

Stick with it.
 
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