1. Get the Diabetes Forum App for your phone - available on iOS and Android.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, we'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the Diabetes Forum Survey 2022 »
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Diabetes Forum should not be used in an emergency and does not replace your healthcare professional relationship. Posts can be seen by the public.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Find support, ask questions and share your experiences. Join the community »

This is crazy, bg in the high 20's after sleep

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by akindrat18, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Ok, so before I went bed last night my blood sugar levels were at 6.8. Now I've just woke up shaking and all sorts, tested just now and they are 28.4. I am on my last few test strips before I get some more on Wednesday.

    My diabetic nurse has shown me a freestyle libre meter at our last meeting 2 weeks ago and she mentioned that my blood sugars should be between 8 and 12, which I don't get and I'm getting really confused now.
     
    • Hug Hug x 1
  2. Mike d

    Mike d Type 2 · Expert

    Messages:
    7,998
    Likes Received:
    11,326
    Trophy Points:
    198
    28.4 is out of the nurse advised (generous range) ... just what don't you get?
     
  3. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,394
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Trophy Points:
    198
    6.8 before going to bed is a good number. What did you eat before going to bed?
     
  4. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    I had 2 bbq wraps from KFC for my staff meal at half 8, took 34 units of novorapid and went bed at 11pm. I also had a few drinks of squash and diet coke mango
     
  5. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    I just don't get how my blood sugars can go that high from being asleep. My nurse suggested to me that I maybe going hypo during the night and wake up to high blood sugar.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Mal37

    Mal37 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    456
    Trophy Points:
    123
    It seems to me that your answer 'may' lie in what you ate and drank prior to bed? I would not DARE have those!!!
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. phdiabetic

    phdiabetic Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    881
    Likes Received:
    1,627
    Trophy Points:
    158
    I'm also guessing it's due to your meal, however, in general, if you get an unexpected number which is truly well outside your normal range (as 28.4 would be) it can be good to double check (wash your hands and test again).

    Hope you are feeling better soon !
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    I feel fine now, shakes have stopped. Just took my morning injections, had a drink of squash and a pot of porridge. Will test again before lunch.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  9. kokhongw

    kokhongw I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,394
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Trophy Points:
    198
    This is where having the Freestyle Libre would remove the guess work. Meanwhile, reducing carbs and squash would likely have less fluctuation. Good to see you back in the forum. :) Take care.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    I'm down to 21.0 and ketone at 0.3
     
    • Hug Hug x 1
  11. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
    Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    14,301
    Likes Received:
    8,228
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Hi there @akindrat18 - As I'm sure you probably approeciate, those massive numbers aren't doing you any good at all. How long have you been seeing them? I thought when you were last on things were a goodly bit better for you?

    Do you have guidance from your nurse of what to do when you have these big numbers? If nothing else, you need to be able to test at will when using insulin, and not having the strips to test when you are running extreme numbers like these seems like playing a different version of Russian Roulette.

    Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting things, but if your wraps were your staff meal, I'm assuming you're working at KFC these days? I don't actually think I've ever had KFC, but I understand there may be a couple of options that could be kinder to your bloods - even if just whilst you're having these runaway big numbers. From what I've read on here, the options are wings or drummers without any coating. Of course, I could have got that wrong.

    Can you pick up some test strips today? you need to be on top of this.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. NewTD2

    NewTD2 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    2,401
    Trophy Points:
    178
    How about adopting a low-carb, high fat diet?

    Eating above ground vegetables?

    Avoid processed foods i.e. KFC, sweet fruit juices and fizzy drinks, as well as high carbohydrate, high glycemic foods i.e. cereals, potatoes, bread, flour, rice, pasta, noodles etc.

    Try these instead -
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Geordie_P

    Geordie_P Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    835
    Likes Received:
    631
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What sort of squash is it? Just trying to narrow it down, coz the BBQ wraps wouldn't be ideal, but they wouldn't usually push someone up into the near 30's. Might the diet coke not have been diet?
     
  14. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    My blood sugars the past month have been a roller-coaster, mainly high throughout the day and then crashing low at night. I've had no input from my nurse on what to do. I've tried to get an appointment with my doctor to get my prescription with no luck today. Even looked at buying some but can't find any.

    I've had to lay of from eating chicken on the bone at KFC and try something else as I've been passing really bad smelly farts from eating KFC's chicken. I normally have a salad box, but since they've lowered the staff meal value down to £4, I can't have it no more. Also I don't take my meter with me when I'm working as I've had several meters robbed of me and there are no lockers, so when I feel low I just have a drink of Pepsi which is the only sugary drink we do.

    I've tried it and it doesn't work for me.

    It's just Robinson apple and blackcurrant and the diet coke was in a bottle.
     
  15. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
    Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    14,301
    Likes Received:
    8,228
    Trophy Points:
    298
    If you have changed what you're eating, it could be your insulin doses just aren't matching your foods any more. That coupled with not being able to test at work, and just having some fizzy drink when you think you could be a bit low is yeat another level of Russian roulette. If your numbers have been a bit boinkers for the last couple of weeks, does that sort of align with the change in your eating?

    You mention your nurse discussing the Libre with you. Has a trial been suggested at all? That would allow your numbers to be recorded, without you doing anything, provided you scan with the reader at least every 8 hours, so that could be useful.

    You need more support, that's for sure, but if I'm honest, there are likely to be some things you could do to help yourself too. I'm sure you probably realise that means being a bit more mindful about your eating regime.

    Sadly your wrapps are going to be carby, coupled with the BBQ sauce on the meat in it, never mind any other salad dressings and drinks you might be having.

    Your employer has a duty of care to keep you safe at work, so you need to have some discussions with them - particularly around the safekeeping of your medical supplies and being able to test.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

    Messages:
    13,235
    Likes Received:
    12,481
    Trophy Points:
    298
    There are reasons behind the OP eating non low carb. T1's need control of their insulin as top priority and the understanding of what caused the extreme high.

    We do not know carb/insulin ratio's for OP and for me wraps and mango would need a lot more bolus. We dont evenknow if the OP normally eats this and is ok etc.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  17. NewTD2

    NewTD2 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    2,401
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Agree, thank you.

    I suppose the OP is Insulin dependent T2?
     
  18. novorapidboi26

    novorapidboi26 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    1,860
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Depending on what your insulin needs are and whether or not your doses are right, a 28 mmol after KFC is possible.....
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. akindrat18

    akindrat18 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    367
    Trophy Points:
    103
    I had my kfc at 8:30pm and tested before I went bed at 11pm, with a blood sugar of 6.8.

    Yes a trial has been suggested and she thinks it will be a good idea for me to have one. I know that the wraps are carby, I still eat carbs as I can't cut them out completely, I still have breakfast cereals or a toasted bacon and cheese bagel thin for breakfast.

    I just bought two avocado's and going to have one with a few bacon rashers for lunch as I love them.
     
  20. Diakat

    Diakat Type 1 · Expert
    Retired Moderator

    Messages:
    5,600
    Likes Received:
    4,170
    Trophy Points:
    198
    Kfc bbQ welcomes in at 32g carbs according to my fitness pal. You had 2 so 64g - was the amount injected correct for that?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  • Meet the Community

    Find support, connect with others, ask questions and share your experiences with people with diabetes, their carers and family.

    Did you know: 7 out of 10 people improve their understanding of diabetes within 6 months of being a Diabetes Forum member. Get the Diabetes Forum App and stay connected on iOS and Android

    Grab the app!
  • Tweet with us

  • Like us on Facebook