What have you eaten today? (Low carb forum)

[Brunneria]

Thanks Quinn, I have been trying different ways of eating over the last 2 years. Trying only to eat animal products atm but I may have to rethink it. Seems to be making things worse right now. It is only a week though. Haven't yet weighed myself so don't know the effect on my weight, but BG seems to be permanently high - at least, it hasn't gone down; it was already high, that's why I was trying something different. One thing I do know is that any noticeable carbs make BG spike something awful.

Anne, a couple of things when going carnivore:

Firstly, weight gain is often because your digestive tract is adjusting and movement through it without all the fibre makes things back up for a bit. It is quite impressive how bowel contents weigh so much In my case, there was a short adjustment period and then things worked better than they ever did on veg. lol.

As for raised glucose levels... I found that I need to do keto carnivore. Too much protein (for me) leads to glycogen storage, and protein converted to glucose. If you are still on insulin, I can see how that wouldn't be ideal. For me, the answer was both easy and simple: less meat, more fat, in keto macros. Problem solved.

I honestly don't think trying a different way of eating for just a week is giving it a fair chance. I would say the same about the Eatwell, Vegan, Pescatarian, or Nutarian If I started trying to reintroduce veg at this point (shudder) it would take weeks or a month for my body to adjust. It has been veg free for 2 years now. I would need to give it time. We eat a certain way for years or months, and then switch to something different? Of course there is a transition. Its just common sense. I do wonder how many people get scared off LCHF because they get carb flu, and then say 'it didn't work for me' when if they had stuck with it, and educated themselves about fluids and electrolytes, they would have taken to it like a duck to water. Sorry, ranting a bit. I had a friend who tried 'low carbing' and 'felt dreadful' and now lectures everyone on how awful it was. The reality was that she low carbed Mon-Fri morning, and then had 2 takeaways on Fri and Sat, and a roast dinner with all the trimmings on Sundays. And guess wot, she never fat adapted, and never saw any low carb benefits... The same mindset applies to switching to, or from, carnivore or any way of eating.

Sorry, not ranting at you and your choices, just the fact that people don't seem to realise that these things take time, adjustment and some acceptance that it may take a little while.

 

[Annb]

Anne, a couple of things when going carnivore:

Firstly, weight gain is often because your digestive tract is adjusting and movement through it without all the fibre makes things back up for a bit. It is quite impressive how bowel contents weigh so much In my case, there was a short adjustment period and then things worked better than they ever did on veg. lol.

As for raised glucose levels... I found that I need to do keto carnivore. Too much protein (for me) leads to glycogen storage, and protein converted to glucose. If you are still on insulin, I can see how that wouldn't be ideal. For me, the answer was both easy and simple: less meat, more fat, in keto macros. Problem solved.

I honestly don't think trying a different way of eating for just a week is giving it a fair chance. I would say the same about the Eatwell, Vegan, Pescatarian, or Nutarian If I started trying to reintroduce veg at this point (shudder) it would take weeks or a month for my body to adjust. It has been veg free for 2 years now. I would need to give it time. We eat a certain way for years or months, and then switch to something different? Of course there is a transition. Its just common sense. I do wonder how many people get scared off LCHF because they get carb flu, and then say 'it didn't work for me' when if they had stuck with it, and educated themselves about fluids and electrolytes, they would have taken to it like a duck to water. Sorry, ranting a bit. I had a friend who tried 'low carbing' and 'felt dreadful' and now lectures everyone on how awful it was. The reality was that she low carbed Mon-Fri morning, and then had 2 takeaways on Fri and Sat, and a roast dinner with all the trimmings on Sundays. And guess wot, she never fat adapted, and never saw any low carb benefits... The same mindset applies to switching to, or from, carnivore or any way of eating.

I do agree that only trying this regime for a week is nowhere near long enough - I'm just panicking that so much weight is going back on when I worked so hard to get rid of it. My protein level is fairly high, I suppose, and my carbs are always lower than recommended. I can't quite picture what 100 grams of protein looks like; I can with fat and I'm just about right there, so I'm probably getting the amount of protein wrong. I do know that I am hungrier than I have been since stopping carbs and that OMAD seems impossible right now. A lot of meat has always stimulated my bowel, so that isn't an issue. Fluid probably is though. I have to take 2 diuretic pills daily to try to reduce the swelling in my legs - it was 3 but my BP was getting too low so it was reduced to 2. Now I take those 2 plus a pill to stabilise my BP at a level slightly higher than I would like, but just about acceptable (apparently). Do you know if there is anything in this way of eating that encourages fluid to gather? And do you know if it is normal to have the entire digestive track to feel as though it is burning? Must be some inflammation there, I would imagine. It's also making me concerned that it might cause my bowel cancer to return after being free of it for about 8 years now. I also have no gall bladder to make processing of fat easier.

I only know of 2 people who have tried low carbing at all - both extremely successful - neither with medical supervision because there were no doctors wiling to countenance it. I am also trying to do it on my own but I am a lot less mobile than either of my friends and that makes a difference as well.

Thanks for your concern and response. I'll probably forget about the cabbage for now and just have a chicken leg with yoghurt.

My Macro (worked out with an online site) indicates that I should be having 119g protein, 30g carbs and 72g fat, daily and taking in 1240 calories - that seems like an awful lot of calories to me. Haven't eaten that much in years, although with all the meat products I've had this week, I may well have exceeded that.

 

[Goonergal]

Evening all.

@Annb wondering whether some of the ‘hunger’ isn’t thirst? You’ll be ditching a lot more water and electrolytes and you also mention a diuretic. Having over indulged on nuts, choc, cream etc over Christmas and then going back to strict carnivore I’ve been insatiably thirsty as my body readjusts. Sometimes that feels like hunger. Just a thought.

Today was busy, busy at work and resulted in a far later than normal dinner. Worth waiting for though - delicious air fried Barnsley lamb chop and a fried egg. Lunch was the usual fried eggs, bacon and cheese.

 

[Annb]

Evening all.

@Annb wondering whether some of the ‘hunger’ isn’t thirst? You’ll be ditching a lot more water and electrolytes and you also mention a diuretic. Having over indulged on nuts, choc, cream etc over Christmas and then going back to strict carnivore I’ve been insatiably thirsty as my body readjusts. Sometimes that feels like hunger. Just a thought.

Today was busy, busy at work and resulted in a far later than normal dinner. Worth waiting for though - delicious air fried Barnsley lamb chop and a fried egg. Lunch was the usual fried eggs, bacon and cheese.

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Love the look of that chop. I've been drinking lots - for me - about 2 1/2 litres a day to try to stem the pangs of hunger. I have to be a bit careful about fluids after ending up in hospital dehydrated a few months ago so I drink a bit more than the recommended amount (2L). If I have vegetables, I don't get so thirsty and tend to forget but right now I am very thirsty.

I weighed my chicken leg - it came in at 297 grams - my macro says 119 grams - so I thought the bones might be making things worse - not much; they weighed 35 grams, so my chicken leg meat weighed 262 grams. More than twice the allowance. This is where I must be going wrong. A drumstick would have fitted the bill better. However, having just eaten it, I am still feeling very empty. Not sure how many calories that was. Added to my scrambled egg this afternoon, I am way over the limit (probably for both protein and calories). I just worked it out, using my little book of numbers and it comes to about 930 calories plus milk for my cups of tea, so say 1000. That should be OK, except that I am still hungry and might be tempted to pick at something. I could just have cocoa with some cream, I suppose.

 

[Deleted member 308541]

Breakfast: Bacon, eggs and sausages, mushrooms, tomato.
Lunch: Toasted ham and cheese sandwiches.
Dinner: Pork chops, and veggies done in the oven, pan juice gravy.

Drinks: Black coffee no sugars, water.

 

[Goonergal]

I weighed my chicken leg - it came in at 297 grams - my macro says 119 grams - so I thought the bones might be making things worse - not much; they weighed 35 grams, so my chicken leg meat weighed 262 grams.

But the weight of the meat doesn’t equate to the grams of protein. 100g of chicken leg (according to Tesco) contains about 18g protein. https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/285210436

 

[Deleted member 308541]

Helpful from those nasty nicks a blade, or particularly the circular blade can make, without noticing, until the claret spills.

They are useless against a band saw tho'...

 

[DJC3]

Still sort of following the DD plan, but having swapped out the goat cheese frittata a domino effect happened and I’ve had to swap a few more meals ( or end up with mince based meals for lunch and dinner on a few days running, just didn’t fancy that)
B: 2fried eggs 2 slices smoked cheese.
L: chicken salad, lettuce, avo, mayo.
Stressful day waiting for vet to ring - Dennis got hold of a packet of paracetamol last night and had to be rushed in..Finally got the all clear and bought him home around 4:30.
D: DD keto tuna casserole, another substitute but very popular in these parts.

 

[Deleted member 308541]

The January 2020 edition of Woolworth's "Fresh" magazine is available to download.

There will be lots of recipes to decarbify if you are up to it.

http://d2g5na3xotdfpc.cloudfront.net/uploads/pdf/WW_Jan:Feb2020_FreshMag_Y6AqFtWz.pdf

 

[shelley262]

Still sort of following the DD plan, but having swapped out the goat cheese frittata a domino effect happened and I’ve had to swap a few more meals ( or end up with mince based meals for lunch and dinner on a few days running, just didn’t fancy that)
B: 2fried eggs 2 slices smoked cheese.
L: chicken salad, lettuce, avo, mayo.
Stressful day waiting for vet to ring - Dennis got hold of a packet of paracetamol last night and had to be rushed in..Finally got the all clear and bought him home around 4:30.
D: DD keto tuna casserole, another substitute but very popular in these parts.

Thank heavens Dennis is okay I’m just about to make sure all our paracetamol are in medicine cupboard as we are picking cooper up in am for nearly a weeks stay!

 

[shelley262]

Complex day including getting work project completed as picking up youngest sons dog Cooper first thing tomorrow and staying for nearly a week so will be lots of games and fun with him.
Breakfast one slice bacon, egg and half toasted chaffle
Lots of coffee
Lunch some cheese and celery followed by 100% montezumas with almonds
Dinner duck stir fry with konjac noodles - delicious- with glass dry white wine followed by lc lemon pudding with full fat yoghurt.

 

[DJC3]

Thank heavens Dennis is okay I’m just about to make sure all our paracetamol are in medicine cupboard as we are picking cooper up in am for nearly a weeks stay!

It was such a worry - the pills were in daughters bag, on a desk in a room with a closed door! The latch is a bit dodgy though so I don’t think it had caught properly. It all happened so fast!
Lots of lovely walks for you and Cooper coming up, wonderful.

 

[Goonergal]

It was such a worry - the pills were in daughters bag, on a desk in a room with a closed door! The latch is a bit dodgy though so I don’t think it had caught properly. It all happened so fast!
Lots of lovely walks for you and Cooper coming up, wonderful.

Glad Dennis is OK. @shelley262 have fun with Cooper.

 

[Annb]

But the weight of the meat doesn’t equate to the grams of protein. 100g of chicken leg (according to Tesco) contains about 18g protein. https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/285210436

Aah! I hadn't thought of that. That puts a very different slant on it. That means my 297 gram chicken leg only came in at 60 grams. Well below the limit. Makes me feel a lot better about it. Could probably afford another egg to stop the pangs of hunger. Probably won't though, not this late on or I will have to wait longer to eat tomorrow. Neil just went (local bus and 2 mile walk to collect it - well wrapped up in winter gear to keep the cold and rain out) and collected the Scenic from its annual service after only a minor repair, so we can go shopping tomorrow. I'll try again to get oxtail and chicken livers. Must also get some lamb - another event coming up for which I'll make a spicy lamb dish as well as a veg soup. They also want a red velvet cake - must get some strong red colour and some cheese for the frosting. Then I can eat when we get home.

 

[Brunneria]

@Annb

i totally agree with @Goonergal
I think you are calculating your protein wrongly.

have a look at this link:
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/304401631
Scroll down to the nutritional information.
100g of chicken breast has 24g of protein. The rest is 1.1g fat and water.
So if you are meant to be eating 100g of protein, then you can eat 400g of chicken without going over your guide amount.

having said that, one of the things you will find over and over again when you read up on eating carnivore
- don’t count and number crunch
- just eat what you like from carnivore foods, to satiety
- you don’t even have to worry about carbs because there are virtually no carbs in animal products (you certainly wouldn’t need your ‘30g of carbs’.

of course, my choice to eat keto requires a bit of guesstimating, but the thought of counting stuff fills me with revulsion! I am never doing that again.

if your body is unhappy (burning gut, and concern about fat intake), then those are perfectly valid reasons to make different food choices you should listen to your body for this, not strangers on a forum! But if you are thinking of trying carnivore seriously, then have a read about it. Look at other people’s experiences, learn what to expect, and what other people consider the good, the bad, and weird.

Sorry for the derailment folks! Back on track now.

Today:
Bone broth and small lc hot choc
No lunch
Sausages and halloumi fries

still peckish - maybe yog

 

[Deleted member 308541]

These basically zero carb Pork Krackles may be of interest to the Australian members / lurkers.

The bowls club have just started selling them across the counter, and are a popular item amongst the members.

https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/188208/gold-medal-snacks-single-pack-pork-krackles

https://www.goldmedalsnacks.com/pork-krackles

 

[mouseee]

Up early to deliver members of the family before going to work myself.
Drove to next village to take other car to garage, then husband onto work in nearby town, then home, shower, drive daughter to train station in opposite direction to get train to college. Then to my work..... which is a whole 5 mins walk from home!! Arrived at work just after 8am.

Treated myself to a station coffee after dropping daughter for breakfast.

Lunch... a real cheese roll! Roll from my LC K box. Followed by LC K brownie!

Dinner.... not a good one really.
Smoked salmon roll and some peanuts!

Lost the pub quiz and also suddenly felt dodgy during the evening. Found my gin and low carb tonic had taken me to 11.9! Pint of water later 7.9 - much better. Think I'll be on whisky again instead of gin.

 

[SlimLizzy]

16-01-2020
FBG 6 1
45 mins later 5 . 4
Breakfast. CWC 2 potato rösti and half my a pack of confit chicken livers.
Lunch soups left from yesterday one slice pain kapnor and some cheese
Shopped.
One chocolate biscuit with my tea.
Later two raw carrots.
Dinner late again . Roast chicken. One piece of potato, several pieces of celariac, sprouts and a few carrots.
Evening two glasses of wine. three squares of chocolate, Cadbury darkmilk 6.9g carbs
total. Lemon tea

 

[Rachox]

House hunting with daughter in Cardiff today for next academic year so apart from breakfast had to rely on eating out all day!
Breakfast: my usual low carb coconut ‘porridge’ with strawberries and cream washed down with a black coffee.
Lunch at Patisserie Valerie: eggs Benedict with giant mushrooms in place of brioche bun.
Mid afternoon: coconut cappuccino and white chocolate phd bar.
Dinner at Wetherspoons: small all day breakfast which was fried egg, bacon, sausage and mushrooms.

 

[Deleted member 308541]

Had a five minute break, for a cup of cold coffee and a piece of cake at Matthew and Son's.