T2 HbA1c results

[0110]

Morning results are still a little unpredictable, ignoring the fact there's a 15% error margin on BG meters. I very much tend to agree with @KennyA that the first morning reading isn't worth worrying about too much. I track it, but it's more of a curiousity and building data thing for me, not something I stress about.

Some mornings I get 5s. Most mornings I get low 6s. However, on occasional mornings I still get high 6s and low 7s - presumably my liver thinks I need to be ready for an early morning ironman triathlon on these days!

Before meals I'm consistently in the 5s range, with occasional high 4s if I've timed exercise 2-3 hours beforehand and not eaten after it. I'm on keto levels of carb intake, so the highest 2hr post meal reading I get these days is 6.5, but I'm mostly in the 5s for this too.

My current 7 day average across all 28 readings I've taken, regardless of timing, is showing as 5.7. Not necessarily meaningful, but the majority of my readings seem to be between 5 and 6 now.

Worth also mentioning I've lost quite a lot of weight since diagnosis and my morning reading has tracked downwards in-line with that.

How are yours doing?

Good numbers you got there, mine morning late 5s or mid 6s, two hours after eatign usually around 6.5. Obviously some days I loose control and eat to destruction but I need to stop that, I have gone from 105KG to 85KG so lost weight as well.

 

[Paul_]

Good numbers you got there, mine morning late 5s or mid 6s, two hours after eatign usually around 6.5. Obviously some days I loose control and eat to destruction but I need to stop that, I have gone from 105KG to 85KG so lost weight as well.

Great results there, keep at it!

 

[rekotek]

Good numbers you got there, mine morning late 5s or mid 6s, two hours after eatign usually around 6.5. Obviously some days I loose control and eat to destruction but I need to stop that, I have gone from 105KG to 85KG so lost weight as well.

Keep it up. I was 104kg around Easter last year and BMI was 36. Around 85kg when I was diagnosed last Dec and now 75kg BMI 26, aim to lose a few more kg by end of this year.

My weight started to go down for a few months last summer to 94kg. However, I did not pay much attention until I experienced heavy diabetes symptoms in October which lost 10kg in a month. Hba1c result Nov was 135 and morning fingertip test 9 to 10, 2hrs after eating (even very low carbs) 13 to 17. I followed GP advice to take Metformin, change diets and more active, a month later morning fingertip was around 6 and 2 hrs after eating 7 to 11. Last month hba1c test 35 well in the range and morning fingertip around 5.3 to 5.6. I just had a heavy carbs meal mainly rice and noodles for dinner and 2 hrs later BG around 7.6.

The BG 2hrs after eating I take that as reference and less worry about it now. I am happy as long as my BG continue to go down after eating and hba1c within range. I still eat KFC, kebabs and other takeaway foods but do my best to avoid eating too much crabs in those foods as much as possible.

 

[oldnevada]

Not really, because they measure different things. The fingerprick test measures blood glucose at that instant. You only have data for the times you test - so no information about what happens while you're asleep, for instance. It's also possible to construct a testing regime that avoids the points when your blood glucose is likely to be elevated (although it's self-defeating).

The HbA1c counts the number of glycated red blood cells - that''s the cells that have had a glucose molecule attached to them. Because red blood cells live about three months, glucose levels from three months ago affect an A1c reading today.

That said, you can sort of estimate how you're doing. If (eg) you're seeing consistently good readings at +2hrs after eating (within 2mmol/l of your baseline reading and not above 7.8mmol/l) and maintain that for three months and more, it's highly probable that this will reflect in a considerably reduced HbA1c.

When I was new, I tried to add up the fingerprick readings, average them, and plot them against HbA1c. It didn't work - it suggested a much lower HbA1c than actually happened, although the real reading was more than good enough.

Thanks, @KennyA
-I remember my Diabetes nurse showing me a TT sample of what glycated Hemoglobin looks like in vitro and how sluggish it was due to the precipitated sugar/viscosity around the erythrocytes/blood cells. It was very creepy. That was a wakeup call. I'm due for a blood work recall by my physician. Must remember to ask her.

 

[0110]

Keep it up. I was 104kg around Easter last year and BMI was 36. Around 85kg when I was diagnosed last Dec and now 75kg BMI 26, aim to lose a few more kg by end of this year.

My weight started to go down for a few months last summer to 94kg. However, I did not pay much attention until I experienced heavy diabetes symptoms in October which lost 10kg in a month. Hba1c result Nov was 135 and morning fingertip test 9 to 10, 2hrs after eating (even very low carbs) 13 to 17. I followed GP advice to take Metformin, change diets and more active, a month later morning fingertip was around 6 and 2 hrs after eating 7 to 11. Last month hba1c test 35 well in the range and morning fingertip around 5.3 to 5.6. I just had a heavy carbs meal mainly rice and noodles for dinner and 2 hrs later BG around 7.6.

The BG 2hrs after eating I take that as reference and less worry about it now. I am happy as long as my BG continue to go down after eating and hba1c within range. I still eat KFC, kebabs and other takeaway foods but do my best to avoid eating too much crabs in those foods as much as possible.

That's great, well done to you. My BMI is 26 now as well. I want to get it lower and in healthy range in the remaining months of this year. You still on medication even at a Hba1c of 35?

 

[ATB123]

Mine was 87 at diagnosis 6 years ago, keto diet for 3 months, came down to 65, out in Gliclazide 40mg once a day, 3 beautiful years of A1c in the 40s then it all went **** up. Was put on Sitagliptin, no good, then Dapagliflozin, no change. Last A1c was in August. Weight loss to 51 kg, taken off all meds and put on insulin 4 days ago. Huge improvement already and feeling loads better. Can't wait fir my next A1c now which will be in December, hoping its a goodie. I stopped keto after 3 months because it didn't work but I do low carb around 50g per day

 

[rekotek]

That's great, well done to you. My BMI is 26 now as well. I want to get it lower and in healthy range in the remaining months of this year. You still on medication even at a Hba1c of 35?

yes, I am still on medication, I tried to ask my GP about this but seems he misunderstood my online request and only reviewed my BG results.

It is not easy to get a face-to-face appointment but he does reply to online requests quickly so I will try again.

 

[niblue]

Is there some kind of index to convert our BG (e.g. my BG levels in the morning are below 6mmol/L. ) levels to an HbA1c value? I keep on forgetting to ask my M.D.? Thanks!

It's only a rough estimate but I've found that the 3 month average of my morning finger prick results has closely approximated my last 2 hb1ac's. For example my last hb1ac was 43 which I think is equivalent to 6.1% and over the 3-month period prior to that the average of my morning tests was 6.3.

 

[Caz141]

I Started this journey in October 2022. Has many here by a chance water test at the doctors for something completely different. Had to fight tooth and fist with the Rottweiler receptionist at my surgery to get a HbAc1 test with a reading of 90mmol/mol, refused meds at this stage and went solo. Though often thought *** am i doing going against the advice of a doctor but stubbornly did it anyway!!

November 75mmol/mol, wasn’t offered the meds on this visit. Lol. this was where i also signed myself up for a diabetic course through the NHS, what at a waste of space that was….i looked good on their figures recorded of my blood sugars for ignoring their advice….I’ll say no more….

Jan 2023 was 46,

Last HbAc1 in April @40mmol/mol.

Due my next hAbC1 in the middle of October.
This will be a year on the path of a diabetic and low carb eating of between 20-50g. At times a proper trudge to go through, patience and tantrums from myself and my family experienced on many levels but i can say with lots of reading and with the help of this forum my diet looks completely different to a year ago.
It’s only took me 50 years to learn about the nutritional values of the food i eat (or not very nutritional!) a complete mind overhaul on what i can now eat and the thoughts of if i cant do pasta, rice potato and bread then what do i pair meals with?? It is do able once figuring out what foods can keep me below 50g and below on my meter. I wont gain any gourmet awards anytime soon for the finesse of my meals but i can say now, finally that my meals are tasty. Finding the various keto puddings i can make as helped also. Almond flour has been a god send in this journey.

@flonvic, great idea to start this thread. It is inspirational reading what others have achieve by ignoring certain info from certain people and educating themselves. A great community to share.

It’s nice seeing where all these people have come from in blood sugar figures wise as I’ve been lurking in the back ground watching through the year.

@Rachox i watch your fasting figures each morning with envy, I’ve not tried your breakfast yet but taken note of the recipe. Currently doing the fasting past breakfast so might have to do it as a pudding one day….well done in keeping a tight control on your diet even when on holiday. I was a soggy Kit Kat on my holiday.

@niblue, that is some great work to go from 106-53 in a short period of time.

Thanks you guys for this space of inspiration to carry on trudging or striding along and the motivation to keep getting back on that wagon that i love/hate falling off for a short period of timexx

 

[filly]

I'm a bit upset. Just got my Hba1c back 51.......
I know having knee surgery had thrown everything out. I thought maybe I had gone over to Pre diabetic again. But oh no..... Diabetic.
I know I am struggling with not over eating. I was hoping I would be more mobile by now but really it is yards rather than anything else. At least can get to the chemist now. Also know the stress of living here isn't helping but nothing I can do about that.
Onwards and upwards.....

Forgot we just had that hot weather and bloods all over the place. Down quite a bit now it is cool. (apart from the early one).
Must remember to have blood test done in the cooler weather....lol

 

[tweedjack]

Good Morning. I'm writing from Canada and I have had T2 for 20 years. For the first 10 years I basically ignored it. Took Metfornin and a few other drugs but they all made me nautious so I just stopped taking anything. About 10 years ago I did start taking BP meds though, still taking them and then about 18 months ago, got serious about getting my Diabetes under control and started using a CGM - Libre. It was expensive and not covered by insurance so only used it 2 weeks per month and then I went on Insulin and it was covered by insurance. Not sure if this is the right forum for this dicussion but I want support where I can create accountability for staying on the Whole Food Plant Based No Oil way of eating. I was going to go the Mastering Diabetes way (program) but frankly it was way too much money, couldn't afford it. So I want to create a way to have a community and accountability (and help) for myself.

Am I in the right place?

 

[Rachox]

Good Morning. I'm writing from Canada and I have had T2 for 20 years. For the first 10 years I basically ignored it. Took Metfornin and a few other drugs but they all made me nautious so I just stopped taking anything. About 10 years ago I did start taking BP meds though, still taking them and then about 18 months ago, got serious about getting my Diabetes under control and started using a CGM - Libre. It was expensive and not covered by insurance so only used it 2 weeks per month and then I went on Insulin and it was covered by insurance. Not sure if this is the right forum for this dicussion but I want support where I can create accountability for staying on the Whole Food Plant Based No Oil way of eating. I was going to go the Mastering Diabetes way (program) but frankly it was way too much money, couldn't afford it. So I want to create a way to have a community and accountability (and help) for myself.

Am I in the right place?

Hi @tweedjack and welcome to the forum. You could probably do with this being a thread of its own for more visibility. I’ll tag in the moderators who could do this for you @EllieM @ianf0ster @KennyA @lovinglife @Pipp @TriciaWs @VashtiB .
Let them know here if you’d like this.

 

[J_P]

Diagnosed with 125/ 114 end of Jun 23 - two different tests carried out either side of the weekend

Currently dont know as due another test in 3 weeks - according to my 'estimate' based on BG should be around the 50ish mark - ill report back mid october

 

[KennyA]

Good Morning. I'm writing from Canada and I have had T2 for 20 years. For the first 10 years I basically ignored it. Took Metfornin and a few other drugs but they all made me nautious so I just stopped taking anything. About 10 years ago I did start taking BP meds though, still taking them and then about 18 months ago, got serious about getting my Diabetes under control and started using a CGM - Libre. It was expensive and not covered by insurance so only used it 2 weeks per month and then I went on Insulin and it was covered by insurance. Not sure if this is the right forum for this dicussion but I want support where I can create accountability for staying on the Whole Food Plant Based No Oil way of eating. I was going to go the Mastering Diabetes way (program) but frankly it was way too much money, couldn't afford it. So I want to create a way to have a community and accountability (and help) for myself.

Am I in the right place?

Hi tweedjack. We have members who use the Mastering Diabetes approach. It's not something I have experience of myself but you might find that

Vegetarian Diet Forum

Forum for people who don't eat meat and those who would like to reduce their meat intake to discuss a vegetarian and/or vegan diet.

www.diabetes.co.uk

would be an appropriate place to move your post for its own thread. Let us know.

Thanks @Rachox

 

[Deleted member 219428]

Hi everyone, went from an HBA1C of 8,8% (73) end of July 23 to a 7% (53) HBA1C result a week ago with a low carb/healthy fats diet. Long way to go to reach non-diabetic levels, but I’m so chuffed…

Forgot to say I’ve also lost 11 kilos! I’m in France so sorry, no idea what this is in stones!

 

[Outlier]

What a wonderful reward for all your hard work! It can seem a lonely journey at times, but we are all here to support each other, so keep us informed and your progress will give encouragement to many others.

 

[Deleted member 219428]

Thanks for your support, it’s so precious. I’ve not been able to find a similar site in France, it’s a tough climb uphill over here to get accurate LCHF & DB info.

 

[Deleted member 219428]

I’ve been a member for a while and I would like to change my signature, but I’ve no idea how to do that. Does anybody know?

 

[Rachox]

I’ve been a member for a while and I would like to change my signature, but I’ve no idea how to do that. Does anybody know?

Click on your pic, top right of the screen, select signature, do your edit then click save.

 

[Europa]

Thanks Rachox, sorry I changed ID as I just realised I had 2 accounts, Celadon and Europa… So I chose the older one. This is a bit confusing, sorry!