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What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

Well, that was a bad idea to go and look for my wellies. I had forgotten I had dumped everything at the top end of the garage during my Xmas sort out. Wellies are under that and I need a fine day to get it all out and sort it. It won't take long, but I cannot do it in a snow fall.

My shoe stuff in bungalow doesn't have a good enough tread for snow and ice. Although I do have those metal spring things that go under your shoes for snow and ice.

I think I will stay snug in bed. Drink coffee and tea. Enjoy the food I got from that village post office yesterday. And shop online! I got nothing online last month, to let the money build up a bit. So now I can have a bit of fun :)

Take care!
 
jjraak said:
Popping in a link for those interested.
As usual, I don't vouch for it so your own due diligence is required.

https://twitter.com/DrDomPimenta/status/1347213212043923456?s=19

Have decided to order new tester while home life is in a state of flux.
Been lax of late , so once it arrives I'll post fbg again.
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Posted by Dr Dominic Pimenta, the guy who resigned from his cardiology post after Cummings jumped into his car and drove to Barnard Castle so ought to be pukka.
 
gennepher said:
Well, that was a bad idea to go and look for my wellies. I had forgotten I had dumped everything at the top end of the garage during my Xmas sort out. Wellies are under that and I need a fine day to get it all out and sort it. It won't take long, but I cannot do it in a snow fall.

My shoe stuff in bungalow doesn't have a good enough tread for snow and ice. Although I do have those metal spring things that go under your shoes for snow and ice.

I think I will stay snug in bed. Drink coffee and tea. Enjoy the food I got from that village post office yesterday. And shop online! I got nothing online last month, to let the money build up a bit. So now I can have a bit of fun :)

Take care!
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Why not gennepher, have some retail therapy!
 
ianpspurs said:
The shower issue baffled me for a while until others said don't swipe for some time after as sensor takes umbrage for a while. Is your Swipey usually within walking distance of your A1c @RFSMarch - or anyone else for that matter? I've had no A1c for just over year and I'm in no rush to do so until I and many others have been fully vaccinated with scores in and verified. If Swioey is reasonably close to true level I don't see any urgency for me but supporting evidence from others would be helpful.
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Yeah it was quite a way out ... but I wasn't wearing it consistently in the run up to my last bloods - it was saying 5.5%/37 and came in at 48 ... but I had not been wearing it continually in that 3-month led - it is obviously reading something because it went up after breakfast but falling back down to low (and I am pretty sure I am not yet comatose with a hypo and anyway as I am often reminded you cannot (allegedly) have a hypo on metformin. More importantly I don't FEEL like I am distinctly unwell having just spend a few mins jovially discussing a broadband upgrade with Sky, whether or not Chillblast will ever receive any office based laptop chassis' as I need a new one but don't need a gaming rig. I have also just run up and down the stairs with the leftovers from laundry done the other day, so I am preeeeetttty sure I am not really struggling with low blood sugar right now.

I am going to *try* and get through at least 2 bottles of water - my water consumption went down with an enforced rest day thanks to my little T-Rex arms after boxing... see if that shifts it. Low carb lunch on the cards which won't help with the meds on top.
Which (if I may be permitted to return to my previous bug-bear) is why I get annoyed when even my lovely GP (as opposed to the donkey who diagnosed me) seems to want me to take MORE metformin. If I am low-to-lower carbing sufficiently well to keep my bloods in a decent range, then surely an abundance of suppressing meds will have an effect on the blood sugar.

It leads me to think that Metformin et al is their go-to for people who staunchly refuse to even make the smallest changes to monitor their carb levels (irrespective of their presenting symptoms... mine was a sudden and rapid weight loss despite a fairly active lifestyle) and there is no allowance for the effect of meds on low-carb diet. I suppose that rabid Facebook group I belonged to was right then - you either commit 100% to low carb and no meds... or... do you just merrily eat whatever the hell you want and rely on the meds to take you down.

I dunno... ‍
 
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RFSMarch said:
Which (if I may be permitted to return to my previous bug-bear) is why I get annoyed when even my lovely GP (as opposed to the donkey who diagnosed me) seems to want me to take MORE metformin. If I am low-to-lower carbing sufficiently well to keep my bloods in a decent range, then surely an abundance of suppressing meds will have an effect on the blood sugar.
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My GP actually the whole staff at the Health Centre push Metformin in the same way, I keep resisting. I have even been told by one GP their Diabetic expert that if I don't take it I'm likely to die as Type 2 is progressive, he is not willing to discuss use of diet and exercise as a replacement for drugs.
 
RFSMarch said:
Yeah it was quite a way out ... but I wasn't wearing it consistently in the run up to my last bloods - it was saying 5.5%/37 and came in at 48 ... but I had not been wearing it continually in that 3-month led - it is obviously reading something because it went up after breakfast but falling back down to low (and I am pretty sure I am not yet comatose with a hypo and anyway as I am often reminded you cannot (allegedly) have a hypo on metformin. More importantly I don't FEEL like I am distinctly unwell having just spend a few mins jovially discussing a broadband upgrade with Sky, whether or not Chillblast will ever receive any office based laptop chassis' as I need a new one but don't need a gaming rig. I have also just run up and down the stairs with the leftovers from laundry done the other day, so I am preeeeetttty sure I am not really struggling with low blood sugar right now.

I am going to *try* and get through at least 2 bottles of water - my water consumption went down with an enforced rest day thanks to my little T-Rex arms after boxing... see if that shifts it. Low carb lunch on the cards which won't help with the meds on top.
Which (if I may be permitted to return to my previous bug-bear) is why I get annoyed when even my lovely GP (as opposed to the donkey who diagnosed me) seems to want me to take MORE metformin. If I am low-to-lower carbing sufficiently well to keep my bloods in a decent range, then surely an abundance of suppressing meds will have an effect on the blood sugar.

It leads me to think that Metformin et al is their go-to for people who staunchly refuse to even make the smallest changes to monitor their carb levels (irrespective of their presenting symptoms... mine was a sudden and rapid weight loss despite a fairly active lifestyle) and there is no allowance for the effect of meds on low-carb diet. I suppose that rabid Facebook group I belonged to was right then - you either commit 100% to low carb and no meds... or... do you just merrily eat whatever the hell you want and rely on the meds to take you down.

I dunno... ‍♀️
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Thanks for that reply. Based on your upgrade number - +11 - I'm fine with some room for more shocks. It would be good for my peace of mind to hear the experience of others. Hug for the bafflement over medication v diet v combination. I can't help really as I am pretty unconvinced by LC but keep warily using it as a rickety bridge until I either find a sturdy, spanking new one or fall off to my demise. I don't bet but my money is on the latter. I'm constantly amazed each time Dr/Dn looks at my A1c and full blood panel and says "Gosh, you're doing well keep it up." I always expect them to say "I don't know what wacky diet you follow but carry on this way and you'll be a gonna within a year." I'll swap your dinosaur arms for my total lack of calf muscles - hefty quads though, presumably so I can at least drag myself about. Interesting just what I could shift/move with those last time I had a PT session - surprised him.:)
Edit: @Muddy Cyclist Interesting, familiar and in many ways sad story. Personally, I feel ,like a few others, the other benefits of metformin and the fact that using it almost certainly obviates the need for a regime far more dangerous in many ways makes it preferable. I have had the same A1c and fasting numbers without 1 M but I'm comfortable with a low dose and wonder about more for the other benefits. I'm far enough across this rickety LC bridge for comfort just now - seems to wobble too much for my liking. I also seem to be an outlier regarding statins - I'm very happy to take them.
 
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5.5 again this morning. Very cold and foggy dog walk this morning. Aldi shop done. They had run out of all their authentic Greek Yoghurt - luckily Lidl is just across the road so we were able to get some there. Greek yoghurt is an important part of my breakfast so am really pleased I goy some.
 
Muddy Cyclist said:
My GP actually the whole staff at the Health Centre push Metformin in the same way, I keep resisting. I have even been told by one GP their Diabetic expert that if I don't take it I'm likely to die as Type 2 is progressive, he is not willing to discuss use of diet and exercise as a replacement for drugs.
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That is not good. It sort of makes them into a drug pusher when there are other ways to control this progressive disease.
 
Krystyna23040 said:
5.5 again this morning. Very cold and foggy dog walk this morning. Aldi shop done. They had run out of all their authentic Greek Yoghurt - luckily Lidl is just across the road so we were able to get some there. Greek yoghurt is an important part of my breakfast so am really pleased I goy some.
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Greek Yoghurt is a staple breakfast item for me also, along with Coffee, not good news, is this a sign of things to come?

I have a friend who makes her own Yoghurt she seems to make it very quickly and it always tastes very good. I must get a recipe from her.
 
Krystyna23040 said:
That is not good. It sort of makes them into a drug pusher when there are other ways to control this progressive disease.
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I agree we should be given the option of trying diet and exercise with plenty of help. Probably highly unlikely in COVID times. You clearly know what works for you and have had amazing success. I think how we manage this condition is a personal judgement call, hopefully, based on very, very careful due diligence. It will be interesting what attitude my new Drs/Dns have since I have never seen either and have no wish to go anywhere near them under current circumstances except for a vaccination. I have no idea who gave me my flu jab and since it didn't give me any issues I don't really care. Does that make me a bad person?
 
Muddy Cyclist said:
My GP actually the whole staff at the Health Centre push Metformin in the same way, I keep resisting. I have even been told by one GP their Diabetic expert that if I don't take it I'm likely to die as Type 2 is progressive, he is not willing to discuss use of diet and exercise as a replacement for drugs.
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Hi Muddy, I believe the protocol is if you have hit the 48 threshold you can have metformin.
In the prediabetic range I cannot get it.
All my drugs stop my bowels and low carb makes it worse, so I think metformin may help.
I happen to know one of the GP trainers at a medical school knows Southport GP and thinks he is wonderful. My words.
The Endo and staff at Newcastle are very open minded.
regards
Derek
 
@Muddy Cyclist I do think that if one is totally reliant on metformin then insulin dependence is the next logical step because those that carry on with their former diet are really only delaying the obvious and to be fair to my GP he wishes he *could* prescribe a Libre sensor to his T2s simply to make them more accountable but poor lamb, I think he suffers with the 'but thou shalt prescribe this because it helps (allegedly) with global poverty and world peace.

@ianpspurs I do think Low (or in my case Lower) Carb is but one facet of managing T2 ... but I was very like my old pa in that he was relatively skinny, fairly fit and active throughout his life and was straight on insulin when he was diagnosed and now I can't hep wondering whether he was actually T1.5.

On the flip side mommy dearest was your 'tabloid variety' T2... and of course genetically we are more predisposed to it anyways.

My cousin, on dad's skinny side of the family, is more like mum and and made me chuckle through lockdown when she couldn't understand how I was losing weight and she was gaining. Her hubby had a lot of weight to lose, is retired and can stroll on long walks multiple times a day and does IF but neither of those work for me. I hate walking without purpose and IF just screws with my concentration which is not much cop if you have to write and keep your mind active during the day.

I can't ring Abbott for a new one until it dies... so here's hoping it gives up the ghost quickly and stops with this low nonsense.
 
RFSMarch said:
It leads me to think that Metformin et al is their go-to for people who staunchly refuse to even make the smallest changes to monitor their carb levels
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There are definitely some people who would rather take meds than change anything about their diet.

This is complicated by the fact that for years T2s have been advised to base their diet on starchy carbs - which absolutely requires metformin to be prescribed. In my case I needed injected insulin because there was no way metformin could cope with the 70g of starchy carbs I was advised to eat with every meal plus adding starchy carb snacks between meals.
 
jjraak said:
Oh @dogslife .
Apologies for late reply

Happy birthday first.

And omg such stress for you at that news.

Homes are so good, but even we were worried back when it was just colds and such spreading around and not this swine of a disease.

And in & out of each others rooms such a godsend for social interaction back then, but now...oh dear how to get those confused to respect todays distancing, I don't know.

Hugs for all that and the emotion packed into memories of dad at this time of year
Never fades away

Hope for continuing good news re mum, and let's hope the vaccinations are the begining of the end of covid worries for all of us.

As for long post...Mmhh

Sometimes we need to vent
And the beauty of the thread, as you point out, is it's a safe, supportive place to do so .

I too find simply writing down my feelings re issues cathartic.

God bless each one on here.

Take good care of yourself.:)
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Thank you so much@jjraak for your kind and understanding response to my post. Good news today is that a 3rd vaccine has now been approved so at least something positive to cling to. On a personal level I am told that mum has settled well into her new room. Take care and stay safe.
 
Krystyna23040 said:
There are definitely some people who would rather take meds than change anything about their diet.

This is complicated by the fact that for years T2s have been advised to base their diet on starchy carbs - which absolutely requires metformin to be prescribed. In my case I needed injected insulin because there was no way metformin could cope with the 70g of starchy carbs I was advised to eat with every meal plus adding starchy carb snacks between meals.
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True, but some people just lose weight without improving their hba1c!
D.
 
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