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Those are risk factors not causes. Sedentary Suzie never overweight here.
Out of interest do you hold any qualifications that enable you to give out nutritional advice?
This is playing out exactly like any dietary conversation with a low carb evangelist.What's the nutritionists equivalent of "Mansplaining" because you've just done it...
And if obesity is a symptom and not a cause?
which indicates that CICO doesnt work for all.It works for you. I get it.
Still maintaining that we are all lying about our calories intake and incapable of calculating our consumption.Low carb diets produce spontaneous calorie reductions without monitoring calorie intake when studied in a lab setting. That's why they work. That and restricting an entire food group, less choice = less opportunity to screw up.
This is playing out exactly like any dietary conversation with a low carb evangelist.
CICO is not a diet, it's the law of thermodynamics.which indicates that CICO doesnt work for all.
Still maintaining that we are all lying about our calories intake and incapable of calculating our consumption.
insults on my intelligence are not required, thank you. CICO clearly does not work for everyone, as seen on here. I will not engage with someone so rude and inflexible.CICO is not a diet, it's the law of thermodynamics.
It works for all whether you accept it or not.
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"About 3000-4000 calories"Excellent so my credentials are still intact.. thank you..
It is also very similar to many other conversations I have had with equally certain CICO zealots.
Unfortunately I didn't start to keep a food diary until I had lost the bulk of my weight so can't give you exact details of what I used to eat. However when I started out I was eating about 3-4,000 calories per day at a weight of 230 pounds.
I should have been gaining weight as I was also very sedentary and still am. That did not happen.
CICO is not a diet, it's the law of thermodynamics.
It works for all whether you accept it or not.
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I noticed that too.Hi and welcome to our diabetes forum, @ATZ and @AnthonyDee
It is always good to see new members here.
I see that you are both in your thirties, both signed up today, and have both only posted on this thread.
I also note that neither of you have completed your profiles fully, so you have not explained your connection with diabetes, medications, and any other relevant details.
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I suspect that some of the disagreement on this thread arises because non-scientists and scientists are using CICO to mean different things.
To understand CICO, scientists will consider a person under controlled conditions, e.g. locked in a room with controlled calorie intake and with all calorie outputs measured (weight gain, exercise, non-exercise activity thermogenesis etc.). This does not stop scientists from agreeing that, in the real world, calorie-controlled diets are mostly not successful for weight-loss in the long-term for various reasons - people tend to have trouble sticking to low calories diet, underestimate how much they eat, tend to reduce their activity levels as they reduce their calories etc. etc.
CICO is perfectly compatible with the idea that a low-carb diet might be more successful for maintaining weight-loss than a calorie-controlled diet - CICO tells us nothing about appetite, eating habits, voluntary exercise, changes in BMR etc.
Did you read the thread I quoted back on page 4? I would be interested to know why you think I lose weight when eating alot more calories when those calories are made up of fat?This is playing out exactly like any dietary conversation with a low carb evangelist.
It works for you. I get it.
There's plenty for which it doesn't though and it primarily down to denying CICO and blaming it all on carbs. I've been there and worked with these people.
Low carb diets produce spontaneous calorie reductions without monitoring calorie intake when studied in a lab setting. That's why they work. That and restricting an entire food group, less choice = less opportunity to screw up.
Ah I didn’t realise our new members were nutritionists and personal trainers. Looks like we got it all wrong, guys. Can’t believe I was duped by Dr. Fung all this time. If only I’d listened to expert opinion instead